Projectile Motion: Calculating Landing Position and Velocity Components

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The discussion revolves around a projectile motion problem involving a ball rolling off a table. The participants explore how to calculate the landing position and the velocity components just before impact, given the initial conditions of height and horizontal velocity.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the initial velocity in the Y-direction and relevant kinematic equations. There is an exploration of how to determine the time the ball is in the air and how to calculate the horizontal distance traveled.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on applying kinematic equations to find time and distance. There is an ongoing exploration of how to find the vertical velocity component, with some participants expressing uncertainty about specific equations.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention using different values for gravitational acceleration and question the relevance of certain formulas. There is a focus on understanding the components of motion in both the x and y directions.

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Hello hello, i have a question for you tonight:

a ball on a 1.5m high table moving at a constant 5m/s rolls of the table.

1. where does it land
2. what are the Vx and Vy values JUST before it hits the ground
thanks so much!

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@pbdude: I am sorry..i didnt really get what you said and i made a topic...thanks for helping though :)
 
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Hey there! I will ask you similar questions as the other thread to start you off:

Since we know that it rolls off horizontally, what can you say about the initial velocity in the Y-direction? That is, what is (Vo)y ?

Also, what are the relevant kinematic equations?
 
Saladsamurai said:
Hey there! I will ask you similar questions as the other thread to start you off:

Since we know that it rolls off horizontally, what can you say about the initial velocity in the Y-direction? That is, what is (Vo)y ?

Also, what are the relevant kinematic equations?


okay, (Vo)y=0 because its only going forward.

other formulas?

Vx=Vcos(theta)
Vy=Vsin(theta)
Dx=Vx(t)
Range/(Dy?)=V²(sin2(theta))/9.8
Dy=Vy(t) + .5at²
 
Okay, Don't worry about the 'range' formula. Let's stick to just:

Dy=Vy(t) + .5at²
Vf=Vo + at
Vf2=Vo2 + 2a(df-do)

Okay?

We also know ay=g=-9.81 m/s2

So, can we apply EQ 1 in the y-direction to find out how long the ball was in the air for?
 
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okay, i can do that but i don't know EQ 3 :(
Dy=Vy(t) + .5at²
1.5=0+4.9t² (my teacher uses 9.8 m/s²)

sooo t=.5533?
 
so, i hope double posting is allowed but
the EQ Vf= Vo + at means that Vf=Vxf or Vyf, and Vo=Vox or Voy?
 
Now how far did it land from the table (the x-direction)?

You have Vox, and you have the amount of time it travels at that speed. You should be able to answer part (1) now.

the EQ Vf= Vo + at means that Vf=Vxf or Vyf, and Vo=Vox or Voy

Yes. I gave you the 'general' form of the EQs. You can apply them to each direction independently as needed.
 
Saladsamurai said:
Now how far did it land from the table (the x-direction)?

You have Vox, and you have the amount of time it travels at that speed. You should be able to answer part (1) now.

OHHH

right :P

5m/s for Vox and .5533 for t

sooo 2.766 M and the answer in the book is 2.8 OH YEAH


thanks SO much :)
 
so how do i find Vx and Vy? if i don't know theta?
 
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Great! For part (2) you know that Vox is constant, so V_fx is the same.

To find V_fy, apply the kinematic EQ: V_fy= V_oy + at

where a=g and 't' you have found.
 
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Saladsamurai said:
Great! For part (2) you know that Vox is constant, so V_fx is the same.

To find V_fy, apply the kinematic EQ: V_fy= V_oy + at

where a=g and 't' you have found.

ahhh thanks again :D
 
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Anytime :smile:
 

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