Projectile motion equation proof

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The forum discussion centers on proving the launch angle θ in projectile motion using the equation θ=tan-1(4hmax/R). The key equations involved are hmax=vi2sin2(θ)/2g and R=vi2sin(2θ)/g. The user initially struggles with the ratio 4hmax/R and makes a calculation error while simplifying the equations. The solution emphasizes working backwards from the desired expression and correctly manipulating the trigonometric identities.

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Homework Statement


Show that the launch angle θ is given by the expression:

θ=tan-1(4hmax/R)

where hmax is the maximum height in the trajectory and R is the range of the projectile.

Homework Equations


hmax=vi2sin2(θ)/2g
R=vi2sin(2θ)/g

The Attempt at a Solution


I am trying to understand the significance of the ratio 4hmax/R. I tried a couple of things, such as substitution and simplifying equations but have gotten nowhere. Can someone give me a tip on how to start this problem?
 
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Note that your expression for theta means tan(theta)=4hmax/R.
Note that tan(theta) is a slope.
Can you write tan(theta) in terms of hmax and R?
 
I plugged in the two equations and simplified:
$$ \frac {\tan(θ)}{4} = \frac {h_{max}}{R} = \frac {\frac {v^2\sin^2(θ)}{2g}}{\frac {v^2\sin(2θ)}{g}} = \frac {\sin^2(θ)}{g\sin(2θ)} =$$
$$ \frac {\sin^2(θ)}{2g\sin(θ)\cos(θ)} = \frac {\sin(θ)}{2g\cos(θ)} = \frac {\tan(θ)}{2g}$$
$$ \frac {\tan(θ)}{4} \neq \frac {\tan(θ)}{2g}$$
What am I doing wrong? Are my initial equations incorrect?
 
Recheck the third equal sign on the top row.

Usually, it is more elegant to not assume the equation that you are trying to obtain.
So, try to work it backwards by trying to first express tan(theta) in terms of sin(theta)/cos(theta), then see how one can get the expression you are trying to prove.
 
That was it! I made a careless error and treated ##2g## as ##g^2## in the third step.

Just to clarify, are you suggesting that I write proofs for these two equations: ## \frac {h_{max}}{R} = \frac {\frac {v^2\sin^2(θ)}{2g}}{\frac {v^2\sin(2θ)}{g}}## before using them?

If I am not going to assume the two equations or prove them, what do I do after this: ##R\sin(θ) = 4h_{max}\cos(θ)## ?
 
Using the "relevant equations", eliminate vi and g... and somehow form tan(theta).
 

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