Projectile motion of a Missile relative to ground

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The discussion focuses on the projectile motion of a missile launched from a fighter jet at a speed of 280 m/s and an altitude of 1800 m, with an initial missile velocity of 160 m/s and a constant horizontal acceleration of a = g/3. Key equations include Δx = Vixt + 1/2gt² and Vf = Vi + at. The main point of contention is the sign convention for gravity, where gravity (g = 9.80 m/s²) is always positive, but can be assigned a negative value in equations depending on the chosen coordinate system. Consistency in defining positive and negative directions is crucial for accurate calculations.

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Homework Statement



A missile is launched from a fighter jet cruising horizontally at a speed of 280 m/s, at an altitude of 1800 m. The initial velocity of the missile relative to the fighter jet is 160 m/s, in the forward direction. The missile is powered by its own engine, which provides it with a constant, horizontal acceleration of a = g/3. The vertical motion of the missile, however, is a free fall (as we neglect the effect of air friction). Take g = 9.80 m/s2.

(a) How long does it take for the missile to reach the ground?
(b) If the missile hits a tank on the ground, how far ahead of the plane horizontally was the tank when the missile was launched? Assuming that the tank has negligible speed compared with the missile.
(c) What is the speed of the missile just before hitting the tank?
(d) What angle does the velocity of the missile make with the ground just before it hits the tank?



Homework Equations



Δx = Vixt x 1/2gt^2

Vf = Vi + at


The Attempt at a Solution



I completed this whole problem then checked the answer key and it seems that my professor made gravity = 9.80 m/s^2 positive and i made gravity negative. I just wanted to know why and b/c i have a exam tonight and want to know when to make gravity positive in these types of questions.
 
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jhong213 said:
I completed this whole problem then checked the answer key and it seems that my professor made gravity = 9.80 m/s^2 positive and i made gravity negative. I just wanted to know why and b/c i have a exam tonight and want to know when to make gravity positive in these types of questions.

Conventionally, standard gravity g is always positive 9.8 m/s2 (well, 9.80665... m/s2 depending on how much precision you want). The point is that g is a positive constant.

When substituted into an equation, the number might end up being negative, but note that g itself is still positive.

For example, take the formula (one that you listed),

vf = vi + at.

Now suppose that you have a problem somewhat like the one you gave above with the missile.

*You* get to define which direction is associated with positive or negative. Typically, up is defined as positive and down is defined as negative (although it doesn't have to be, this is your choice). So let's use that. Up is positive. Since the acceleration due to gravity points down, that That means that it points in the negative direction, such that a = -g. Our equation becomes,

vf = vi - gt.

But note that g itself is still a positive value. The acceleration a can be negative, even though g remains positive.

One last substitution shows that this is

vf = vi - (9.8 [ms-1])t.

But don't forget that the 9.8 ms-1 isn't negative because g is negative, but rather it's negative because the formula contained a "-g" in it. g is and always was positive.

All that being said, the direction of whether up is positive or down is positive is really your choice. But once you make that choice, ensure you are consistent with it throughout the entire problem, and make sure your choice applies not just to acceleration but also to velocity and displacement. As long as you are consistent, you'll get the same answer either way.

If your professor has a preference (as to whether up is positive or negative) I suggest following it just to keep things simple. But whatever the case, standard gravity g is always a positive constant.
 

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