Projectile motion of a tennis ball

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The discussion revolves around the projectile motion of a tennis ball hit at an initial velocity of 21.0 m/s at an angle of 58.0 degrees above the horizontal. Participants are exploring the ball's velocity at its highest point and the associated acceleration.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the components of velocity, questioning whether both horizontal (Vx) and vertical (Vy) components are relevant at the highest point. There is confusion regarding the interpretation of the velocity at that point, with some asserting that Vy must be zero while others consider Vx's role.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants offering different interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been provided regarding the distinction between Vx and Vy, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach or answer.

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Participants express uncertainty about the calculations and the application of equations, indicating a lack of clarity on how to combine the components of velocity. There are references to incorrect answers based on their calculations, highlighting potential misunderstandings of the problem setup.

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Homework Statement



A tennis player hits a ball at ground level, giving it an initial velocity of 21.0 m/s at 58.0 deg above the horizontal. What is the ball's velocity at the highest point?

Homework Equations


Vx=Vocos(theta)
Vy=Vosin(theta)
y=1/2-g(t^2)+Vy(t)
V-Vo/a = t



The Attempt at a Solution



I've completed all of the steps up to this point and arrived at the conclusion that the velocity of the ball at the highest point must be zero, theoretically speaking, of course. When I input 0 m/s, the answer was marked as incorrect. What am I missing. Final velocity must be zero since the balls velocity slows down to zero when it's at the maximum distance. It also asked for the acceleration at the highest point and theoretically speaking, the answer was 9.8 m/s^2, which is consistent with theory. What gives?!
 
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Hehe stumped arent you?
But think.There are 2 velocities.Vx and Vy.Which one is zero?Both or one of those?
 
atavistic said:
Hehe stumped arent you?
But think.There are 2 velocities.Vx and Vy.Which one is zero?Both or one of those?

Yes, I am completely stumped. If they're asking for velocity at highest point, naturally I'd think Vy. I didn't think Vx could even have a "highest" point?! Only Vy has a velocity of zero. As for Vx, what could what could that possibly be?

Here's what I'm thinking now...

Using equation v = Vo + at

Substitute initial velocity of x (Vx) which is 11.1m/s, the acceleration of 9.8 m/s^2 and the time it takes to reach the balls max heigh which is 1.82s ...

so, v = 11.1m/s + 9.8m/s^2(1.82s)
v = 28.9 m/s

Is that correct, or am I fooling myself? Doesn't make sense to me!:rolleyes:
 
NO.You got the question wrong.They asked the V and not the Vy.At any point V is given as under root Vy^2 + Vx^2.

And what is the equation u put above.Makes no sense.you can't combine Vx with Ay.Vx is always constant.Only Vy changes with time.
 
Idealism_Theory said:
Yes, I am completely stumped. If they're asking for velocity at highest point, naturally I'd think Vy. I didn't think Vx could even have a "highest" point?! Only Vy has a velocity of zero. As for Vx, what could what could that possibly be?

Here's what I'm thinking now...

Using equation v = Vo + at

Substitute initial velocity of x (Vx) which is 11.1m/s, the acceleration of 9.8 m/s^2 and the time it takes to reach the balls max heigh which is 1.82s ...

so, v = 11.1m/s + 9.8m/s^2(1.82s)
v = 28.9 m/s

Is that correct, or am I fooling myself? Doesn't make sense to me!:rolleyes:

Vo doesn't equal Vx
 
Feldoh said:
Vo doesn't equal Vx

Well, does Vo the originally stated 21.0m/s? That would mean the final velocity is 38.8 m/s... still not making sense. Please clarify, someone!

Originally Posted by Idealism_Theory
Yes, I am completely stumped. If they're asking for velocity at highest point, naturally I'd think Vy. I didn't think Vx could even have a "highest" point?! Only Vy has a velocity of zero. As for Vx, what could what could that possibly be?

Here's what I'm thinking now...

Using equation v = Vo + at

Substitute initial velocity of x (Vx) which is 11.1m/s, the acceleration of 9.8 m/s^2 and the time it takes to reach the balls max heigh which is 1.82s ...

so, v = 11.1m/s + 9.8m/s^2(1.82s)
v = 28.9 m/s

Is that correct, or am I fooling myself? Doesn't make sense to me
 
Feldoh said:
Vo doesn't equal Vx

atavistic said:
NO.You got the question wrong.They asked the V and not the Vy.At any point V is given as under root Vy^2 + Vx^2.

And what is the equation u put above.Makes no sense.you can't combine Vx with Ay.Vx is always constant.Only Vy changes with time.


Well, I tried that. It was incorrect! Now what do you suggest. I definitely didn't see that as the answer either.

v = sqrt vx^2 + vy^2

v = sqrt 11.1^2 + 17.8^2

v = 30 m/s (which is marked as incorrect)
 
Bump.
 
Put Vy = 0 man. so that gives u 11.1 m/s as the answer.
 

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