Projectile Motion, Physics I with Calc. I

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The discussion revolves around a projectile motion problem involving a ball thrown from a height, with specific parameters such as time of flight, horizontal distance, and impact angle. Participants are tasked with finding the height from which the ball was thrown, as well as the initial velocity's magnitude and angle.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss reversing the motion to determine height and express uncertainty about subsequent steps to find initial velocity. Questions arise regarding the interpretation of equations and the intent behind specific parts of the problem statement.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into their reasoning and questioning the clarity of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of velocity components, but no consensus has been reached on the next steps.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential ambiguities in the problem statement, particularly regarding the wording of part (b) and the relevance of certain equations. There is also a recognition that the equations for vertical motion may not apply directly due to changing velocity over time.

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Homework Statement


A ball is thrown leftward from the left edge of the roof, at height h above the ground. The ball hits the ground 1.60 seconds later, at distance d = 24.0 m from the building and at angle theta = 55 degrees with the horizontal. (a) Find h. What is the (b) magnitude and (c) angle relative to the horizontal of the velocity at which the ball is thrown?

We know that the impact angle is theta = 55 degrees
x distance is 24.0 m
time for the ball to hit the ground is 1.60 seconds.


Homework Equations



y-y0 = v0sin(theta)t - gt2/2

x-x0 = v0cos(theta)t

Vx = v0xt

Vy = v0yt

v0x = v0cos(theta)

v0y = v0sin(theta)

The Attempt at a Solution



My first step was to solve for h. What I did was reverse the motion so instead of tossing the ball from the rough, we tossed it from the ground. I made the impact point the origin (0,0). Next I took my second equation and solved it for v0 which gave me x-x0 / cos(theta)t = v0. I plugged that into the first equation and then solved for y which gave me the value 21.73 m.

Now, here is where I get lost. I'm not sure exactly what to solve for. I thought maybe if I solved the equation backwards like I did for height I could find the impact velocity and make that my initial velocity. The problem is I don't know where to start. Any suggestions would be appreciated for sure!
 
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bohregard said:

Homework Statement


A ball is thrown leftward from the left edge of the roof, at height h above the ground. The ball hits the ground 1.60 seconds later, at distance d = 24.0 m from the building and at angle theta = 55 degrees with the horizontal. (a) Find h. What is the (b) magnitude and (c) angle relative to the horizontal of the velocity at which the ball is thrown?

We know that the impact angle is theta = 55 degrees
x distance is 24.0 m
time for the ball to hit the ground is 1.60 seconds.


Homework Equations



y-y0 = v0sin(theta)t - gt2/2

x-x0 = v0cos(theta)t

Vx = v0xt

Vy = v0yt

v0x = v0cos(theta)

v0y = v0sin(theta)

The Attempt at a Solution



My first step was to solve for h. What I did was reverse the motion so instead of tossing the ball from the rough, we tossed it from the ground. I made the impact point the origin (0,0). Next I took my second equation and solved it for v0 which gave me x-x0 / cos(theta)t = v0. I plugged that into the first equation and then solved for y which gave me the value 21.73 m.

Now, here is where I get lost. I'm not sure exactly what to solve for. I thought maybe if I solved the equation backwards like I did for height I could find the impact velocity and make that my initial velocity. The problem is I don't know where to start. Any suggestions would be appreciated for sure!

What is the red equation for?

You sure part b is not missing a word?
 
pgardn said:
What is the red equation for?

You sure part b is not missing a word?

Yup that's the question. The red equation is the y component of velocity.
 
bohregard said:
Yup that's the question. The red equation is the y component of velocity.

Well for projectile motion that will not work as Vy changes through time.

Im thinkin the question intended to ask something about the velocity of the ball when it hits the ground and make some comparison with the initial conditions. But I cannot tell for sure.
 

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