Projectile Motion: Solving for Horizontal Displacement from a 200m Cliff

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The problem involves projectile motion, specifically determining the horizontal displacement of a projectile fired from a height of 200 meters with an initial velocity of 60 m/s at an angle above the horizontal.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the setup of the equations of motion, particularly focusing on the correct application of signs in the equations. There is an exploration of the quadratic equation derived from the motion equations and the implications of negative values under the square root.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging in clarifying the correct application of the equations of motion. Some guidance has been offered regarding the treatment of signs in the equations, but there is still uncertainty about the correct setup and interpretation of the variables involved.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted confusion regarding the direction of gravity and how it affects the signs in the equations. Participants are also considering the implications of choosing a positive direction for displacement and velocity.

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Homework Statement



A projectile is fired into the air from the top of a 200 m cliff above a valley as shown in the figure. Its initial velocity is 60 m/s above the horizontal. Where does the projectile land?




Homework Equations



x=60cos60 t

set the next equation equal to zero and solve for t:

-200=60sin60t-1/2(-9.81)(t)^2

The Attempt at a Solution



I solved for t so I could find horizontal displacement, ended up with the following quadratic but end up with a negative number inside square root.
4.9t^2+52t+200=0 I know my mistake is probably obvious but I can't see it, help appreciated.
 
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-200=60sin60t-1/2(-9.81)(t)^2
In the equation you have to use only one negative.
 
The equation is displacement=v0t+(1/2)at^2. You have to choose one direction as positive and write all quantities according to that convention. If you do that, you'll end up with only one negative, as rl said.
 
rl.bhat said:
-200=60sin60t-1/2(-9.81)(t)^2
In the equation you have to use only one negative.

But isn't gravity negative? So don't I plug a negative value here?
 
Appreciate it
 
No, you always use the equation:

displacement=v0t+(1/2)at^2

If you choose "up" as positive, then displacement would be -200, which you have. v0 would be vsin(60), which you also have. a would be -9.8 m/s^2, since gravity acts downwards. Leave the positive sign in front of 1/2 alone; that can never change.
 

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