Projectile Motion with Relative Motion (w/o Solver)

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The discussion focuses on solving a projectile motion problem involving relative motion without using computational solvers like Wolfram Alpha. The equations provided include the horizontal and vertical components of velocity, as well as the kinematic equation for vertical motion. The user successfully rearranged the equations to isolate the angle α but seeks alternative methods to solve the resulting equation, which is complex and involves trigonometric identities. The correct angles obtained are α = 31.32° and 74.28°.

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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


vx = 70*cos(α) + 8.333 (30 km/h = 8.333 m/s)
vy = 70*sin(α)
vx*t = 350
vy*t = 60
-(1/2)*g*t^2 + vy*t + 2.5 = 60

The Attempt at a Solution


This problem is conceptually very simple for me, but I can't solve it without using a solver like Wolfram Alpha. First, I simply rearranged vx*t = 350 into t = 350/vx = 350/(70*cos(α) + 8.333). Then, I plugged this t into the -(1/2)*g*t^2 + vy*t + 2.5 = 60 equation and I got an equation with only the angle α as the unknown. After moving the equation around so that there are no denominators, I get:
600825.5 + 204167*sin(α) + 1715000*sin(α)*cos(α) = 281750*cos2(α) + 67083*cos(α) + 3993

Is there a way to solve this equation without using a solver? Is there another method entirely which I'm missing? I have the right answers, which are α = 31.32° and 74.28°.
 
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bartersnarter said:

Homework Statement


dueGtwP.png


Homework Equations


vx = 70*cos(α) + 8.333 (30 km/h = 8.333 m/s)
vy = 70*sin(α)
vx*t = 350
vy*t = 60
-(1/2)*g*t^2 + vy*t + 2.5 = 60

The Attempt at a Solution


This problem is conceptually very simple for me, but I can't solve it without using a solver like Wolfram Alpha. First, I simply rearranged vx*t = 350 into t = 350/vx = 350/(70*cos(α) + 8.333). Then, I plugged this t into the -(1/2)*g*t^2 + vy*t + 2.5 = 60 equation and I got an equation with only the angle α as the unknown. After moving the equation around so that there are no denominators, I get:
600825.5 + 204167*sin(α) + 1715000*sin(α)*cos(α) = 281750*cos2(α) + 67083*cos(α) + 3993

Is there a way to solve this equation without using a solver? Is there another method entirely which I'm missing? I have the right answers, which are α = 31.32° and 74.28°.
You could turn it into a quartic in cos(α), but you would not be that much better off.
 

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