Projectiles Question -- Tiger Woods drives a golf ball on the Moon

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The problem involves calculating the horizontal distance a golf ball driven by Tiger Woods would travel on the Moon, given specific initial conditions such as launch speed and angle, and the Moon's gravitational acceleration.

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  • Participants discuss the initial horizontal and vertical velocities derived from the launch speed and angle. There are attempts to calculate the time of flight using vertical motion equations, with some questioning the gravitational constant used in calculations.

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Participants are exploring various interpretations of the problem, including unit conversions and the effects of gravity on the Moon. Some guidance has been offered regarding the correct application of gravitational acceleration, but no consensus has been reached on the final calculations.

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There are inconsistencies noted in unit conversions and assumptions about gravity's effect on projectile motion in a lunar context. Participants are also addressing the implications of using Earth-based gravitational values in their calculations.

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Homework Statement



As part of a NASA experiment, golfer Tiger Woods drives a golf ball on the moon, where
g = 1.60 m/s2. He ‘launches’ a golf ball with a speed of 285 km/h, at an angle of 42o with the horizontal. What horizontal distance will his drive travel before landing back on the surface of the moon. Ignore the curvature of the moon.

Homework Equations



d = (Vi)(t) + 1/2(a)t2

Vf =Vi + at

(Vf)2 = (Vi)2 + 2ad

The Attempt at a Solution



Initial horizontal velocity:

285 x cos42
= 211.8 km/h

Initial Vertical Velocity

285 x sin42
= 190.7 km/h

Finding time using vertical components

d = (Vi)(t) + 1/2(a)t2

0 = 190.7t - 4.9t2

t = 38.9 s

Using time to find distance

d = (Vi)(t) + 1/2(a)t2

d = 211.8 x 38.9 + 1/2(0)t2

d = 8239 m
 
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rr96 said:
0 = 190.7t - 4.9t2
4.9?
 
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Sorry, I skipped a step. 1/2 x 9.8 = 4.9
 
rr96 said:
Sorry, I skipped a step. 1/2 x 9.8 = 4.9

Haruspex is a smart guy, I'm sure he could see the step you skipped.

His next question would be:

"9.8?"
 
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Besides that, though, there's one more small problem. Your units are inconsistent.

(You need to convert km/hr to meters/second)
 
Thanks! I completely missed that. My final answer is 635 m
 
rr96 said:
Thanks! I completely missed that. My final answer is 635 m

My answer disagrees.

How long will the ball be in the air? (What was your calculation for this?)
 
10.8 s ?
 
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d = (Vi)(t) + 1/2(a)t2

0 = 52.97t - 4.9t2

t = 10.8 s
 
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Have you forgotten where this is taking place? :) Remember, we're not on Earth.
 
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d = (Vi)(t) + 1/2(a)t2

0 = 52.97t - 0.8t2

t = 66.21 s

I had forgotten! Thank you so much!
 
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Final answer is 3.9 km
 
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There you go, that should be the correct answer.

(Do you have something that says what the correct answer is?)
 
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Yup! That's what it says the answer is.
 
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You have missed out on crucial piece of information which the value of is 1.60m/s^2 as the event is taking place on the moon
 
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rr96 said:
Final answer is 3.9 km

Can you explain how you got this? I followed the replies and tried doing it myself but don't understand at all how you're getting to 3.9
 
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hr14 said:
Can you explain how you got this? I followed the replies and tried doing it myself but don't understand at all how you're getting to 3.9
What do you get and why?
 
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PeroK said:
What do you get and why?
This is what I did...

vx: 285 x cos42
= 211.8 km/h = 58.83 m/s

vy: 285 x sin42
= 190.7 km/h = 52.97 m/s

d = (Vi)(t) + 1/2(a)t2
0 = 52.97t - 0.8t2
t = 66.2125s

d = (Vi)(t) + 1/2(a)t2
d = 58.83 x 66.2125 + 1/2(1.6)(66.2125)2
d = 388 m

388m = 0.388km
 
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hr14 said:
d = (Vi)(t) + 1/2(a)t2
d = 58.83 x 66.2125 + 1/2(1.6)(66.2125)2
Gravity acts diagonally on the moon?!
But that expression gives 7402m.
I've played around with variants of the above expression for d (ignoring the quadratic term, making it negative) and none lead to 388.
 
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haruspex said:
Gravity acts diagonally on the moon?!
But that expression gives 7402m.
I've played around with variants of the above expression for d (ignoring the quadratic term, making it negative) and none lead to 388.
I tried again and did get 7402m but converting that to km doesn't give 3.9km (which is the correct answer).
I meant to put a negative sign instead of positive. But doing (-) instead of (+) should give 388
 
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hr14 said:
I tried again and did get 7402m but converting that to km doesn't give 3.9km (which is the correct answer).
I meant to put a negative sign instead of positive. But doing (-) instead of (+) should give 388
You seem to have overlooked my rhetorical question:
haruspex said:
Gravity acts diagonally on the moon?!
 
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haruspex said:
You seem to have overlooked my rhetorical question:
No, it doesn't. It acts vertically
 
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hr14 said:
No, it doesn't. It acts vertically
So why do you have a gravity term in the horizontal displacement equation?
hr14 said:
d = (Vi)(t) + 1/2(a)t2
d = 58.83 x 66.2125 + 1/2(1.6)(66.2125)2
 
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haruspex said:
So why do you have a gravity term in the horizontal displacement equation?
I figured it out. Thanks
 

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