Proof about complex conjugate of a function

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The discussion revolves around understanding the proof related to the complex conjugate of a function, specifically the relationship g(z) = g*(z*). Participants explore the implications of this relationship within the context of analytic functions and the properties of complex conjugates.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks clarification on the proof of the relationship g(z) = g*(z*), expressing difficulty in finding resources.
  • Another participant suggests that if g is analytic around z0, it can be expressed as a power series, which may simplify the proof.
  • There is a discussion about the validity of manipulating power series and the need for intermediate steps to justify certain equalities.
  • Concerns are raised regarding the assumption that the equality holds without sufficient proof, highlighting the need for restrictions or conditions.
  • Participants discuss the properties of complex conjugates and how they apply to sums and products, questioning whether the conjugate of a sum equals the sum of the conjugates.
  • A participant acknowledges a mistake in their reasoning and reiterates the properties of complex conjugates they are using.
  • There is a suggestion that z0 must be real for certain steps in the proof to hold, leading to further inquiry about how to establish that z0 is indeed real.
  • Another participant confirms that z0 is real if its complex conjugate equals itself.
  • There is a proposal to use the properties of complex conjugates to show how to manipulate the expression involving z0.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the assumptions and steps required to prove the relationship involving complex conjugates. There is no consensus on the proof's validity or the necessary conditions for it to hold.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of establishing whether z0 is real and the implications of this assumption on the proof. The discussion highlights the need for careful consideration of the properties of complex functions and their conjugates.

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Hi,
I need to understand the proof about complex conjugate of a function.
g(z) = g*(z*)
I don't know what it it called in English and can't search for it.
If anyone knows where can I get the proof, please let me know.
Thanks for help.
 
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Note that if g is analytic around z0, you can write it as
$$g(z) = \sum_{n = 0}^\infty a_n (z - z_0)^n$$
for all z in a neighborhood of z0, which is an easy expression to work with.
 
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Thanks for the idea!
g\left( z^{\ast }\right) =\sum _{n=0}^{\infty }\left( z^{\ast }-z_{0}\right) ^{n}
g^{\ast }\left( z^{\ast }\right) = \left( \sum _{n=0}^{\infty }\left( z^{\ast }-z_{0}\right) ^{n}\right) ^{\ast }= \sum _{n=0}^{\infty }\left( z-z_{0}\right) ^{n}= g(z)
Is this right?
 
anhnha said:
Thanks for the idea!
g\left( z^{\ast }\right) =\sum _{n=0}^{\infty }\left( z^{\ast }-z_{0}\right) ^{n}
This is actually a very specific function. In general, you will have coefficients an
g\left( z \right) =\sum _{n=0}^{\infty }a_n \left( z -z_{0}\right) ^{n}
Depending on whether you look at real or complex analytic functions (also see this Wikipedia page and related pages), an are real or complex numbers and the proof will be more or less straightforward.

g^{\ast }\left( z^{\ast }\right) = \left( \sum _{n=0}^{\infty }\left( z^{\ast }-z_{0}\right) ^{n}\right) ^{\ast }= \sum _{n=0}^{\infty }\left( z-z_{0}\right) ^{n}= g(z)
Is this right?
You are pretty quick jumping from ## \left( \sum _{n=0}^{\infty }\left( z^{\ast }-z_{0}\right) ^{n}\right) ^{\ast }## to ##\sum _{n=0}^{\infty }\left( z-z_{0}\right) ^{n}##. You are trying to prove whether this equality holds, and it almost seems like you are assuming it now. At the moment, your 'proof' basically says "this theorem is true because it's true.". To convince a mathematician, you will need some more intermediate steps.

For example: is the conjugate of the sum the sum of the conjugate? If so, you can write
$$\left( \sum _{n=0}^{\infty }\left( z^{\ast }-z_{0}\right) ^{n}\right) ^{\ast } = \sum _{n=0}^{\infty } \left(\left( z^{\ast }-z_{0}\right) ^{n}\right) ^{\ast }$$
Then, how do you get from ##\left( (z^\ast - z_0)^n \right)^\ast## to ##(z - z_0)^n##?

You will find that you actually need some restrictions!
 
Hi,
In my case I am now interested in real functions. Therefore, according to the link you gave coefficients an will be real.
You are pretty quick jumping from ## \left( \sum _{n=0}^{\infty }\left( z^{\ast }-z_{0}\right) ^{n}\right) ^{\ast }## to ##\sum _{n=0}^{\infty }\left( z-z_{0}\right) ^{n}##. You are trying to prove whether this equality holds, and it almost seems like you are assuming it now. At the moment, your 'proof' basically says "this theorem is true because it's true.". To convince a mathematician, you will need some more intermediate steps.

For example: is the conjugate of the sum the sum of the conjugate? If so, you can write
$$\left( \sum _{n=0}^{\infty }\left( z^{\ast }-z_{0}\right) ^{n}\right) ^{\ast } = \sum _{n=0}^{\infty } \left(\left( z^{\ast }-z_{0}\right) ^{n}\right) ^{\ast }$$
Then, how do you get from ##\left( (z^\ast - z_0)^n \right)^\ast## to ##(z - z_0)^n##?

You will find that you actually need some restrictions!
Yes, that is my mistake. I use two properties of complex conjugate.
1. (x + y)* = x* + y*
2. (xy)*= x*y*
where x, y are complex numbers.
Then, how do you get from ##\left( (z^\ast - z_0)^n \right)^\ast## to ##(z - z_0)^n##?

You will find that you actually need some restrictions!
I think that z0 has to be real, right?
But in my case how can I prove that z0 is real?
 
Could anyone help me next?
 
##z_0## is real if ##(z_0)^\ast = z_0##.

You can use the two properties you mentioned to show that
##\left( (z^\ast - z_0)^n \right)^\ast = (z^\ast - z_0^\ast)^n##.
 

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