Proof: Discreteness of Topological Groups

In summary, the statement is that if a topological group is discrete, then the singleton containing the identity is an open set.
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Homework Statement


Prove: a topological group is discrete if the singleton containing the identity is an open set.

The statement is in here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discrete_group

The Attempt at a Solution


Is that because if you multiply the identity with any element in the group, you get a new element with nothing surrounding it because it's like you can also multiply the area around the identity to the new position. In other words mapping open sets to open set?

f is cts => open sets are mapped to open sest in a topological group.
 
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It's not true that continuous functions map open sets to open sets. For example, the map f(x)=x^2 maps the open set (-1,1) to the non-open set [0,1). Rather, the inverse image of an open set under a continuous map is an open set. So look at the preimage of the identity under certain maps, say, f_g:G->G, where f_g(h)=gh.
 
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StatusX said:
It's not true that continuous functions map open sets to open sets. For example, the map f(x)=x^2 maps the open set (-1,1) to the non-open set [0,1). Rather, the inverse image of an open set under a continuous map is an open set. So look at the preimage of the identity under certain maps, say, f_g:G->G, where f_g(h)=gh.

I realized that after posting. I may have remembered under some circumstances, open sets are mapped to open sets. What is this circumstance?
 
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Maps that do that are called 'open maps'. Just like continuous maps don't have to be open, open maps don't have to be continuous either.
 
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morphism said:
Maps that do that are called 'open maps'. Just like continuous maps don't have to be open, open maps don't have to be continuous either.

Under what circumstances are open maps continuous and vice versa?
 
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StatusX said:
So look at the preimage of the identity under certain maps, say, f_g:G->G, where f_g(h)=gh.

But do all f_g have to be continuous maps? It isn't implied from the axioms for a topological group.
 
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Multiplication maps are always continuous. This follows from the fact that multiplication is jointly continuous in a topological group.
 
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morphism said:
Multiplication maps are always continuous. This follows from the fact that multiplication is jointly continuous in a topological group.

RIght, I found a proof of it using product topology and component mapping, pi which is open.
 

FAQ: Proof: Discreteness of Topological Groups

1. What is a topological group?

A topological group is a mathematical structure that combines the concepts of a group and a topological space. It is a set equipped with a binary operation that satisfies the group axioms, and a topology that satisfies certain properties, such as continuity and compatibility with the group operation.

2. What does it mean for a topological group to be discrete?

A topological group is said to be discrete if it has the discrete topology, meaning that every subset of the group is open. This essentially means that the elements of the group are isolated and do not have any limit points.

3. Why is the discreteness of topological groups important?

The discreteness of topological groups is important because it allows for the application of techniques and tools from group theory to the study of topological spaces. It also has implications in areas such as number theory and representation theory.

4. How does one prove the discreteness of a topological group?

The proof of discreteness of a topological group typically involves showing that every point in the group has a neighborhood that does not contain any other points. This can be done by using the properties of the group operation and the topology, and showing that they together imply the discreteness of the group.

5. What are some examples of discrete topological groups?

Some examples of discrete topological groups include the integers under addition, the rational numbers under multiplication, and the group of all permutations of a finite set.

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