Elliptic functions, properties of periods, discrete subgroup

In summary, the homework statement claims that if there is an element in the set ##\Omega \backslash \{\,\omega\,\}## within the ball of radius 2\epsilon centered at z, then there is no such element around z.
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binbagsss
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Homework Statement



HiI am following this proof attached and am just stuck on the bit that says:

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‘since ##\Omega## is a group it follows that ##|z-\omega|<2\epsilon ## contains..’Tbh, I have little knowledge on groups , it’s not a subject I have really studied in any of my classes-so the only thing I can think to look to do is look at the defining properties of a group :

Identity exists, inverse exists, closure and associativity

I believe it may be using the ‘converse’ of closure so something like if ##a \in \Omega ## and ##b## is not then ##a+b## is not in ##\Omega## ?(not a true converse since it is necessary , not sufficient..but..)

Lastly, if this was the case, there should be a ##\epsilon_1## and a ##\epsilon_2##, surely there is nothing to suggest that the discrete points in the set ##\Omega## are equally spaced? (unless ofc, it is a set of periods, which in this case it is, but this hasn’t been derived quite yet, this comes after).I’m probably way off track, but help much appreciated.

Many thanks

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binbagsss said:
‘since ##\Omega## is a group it follows that ##|z-\omega|<2\varepsilon## contains no element in ##\Omega \backslash \{\,\omega\,\}##'
Assume we have a ##\nu \in \Omega \backslash \{\,\omega\,\}## within this ball. Then ##\mu := \nu+\omega \in \Omega## and ##|z-\mu|=|(z - \omega ) - \nu | < 2\varepsilon## in contradiction that there is no such element around ##z##.
 
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binbagsss said:
... surely there is nothing to suggest that the discrete points in the set ##\Omega## are equally spaced?
So? They are not equally spaced. We have a lattice with a parallelepiped as basis cell, i.e. two side of possibly different lengths. Along one direction they have to be equally spaced, because of the minimality of our choices ##\omega_j ##. As sums and differences are still elements of ##\Omega##, any shorter point would lead to a smaller ##\omega_j ##.
 
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fresh_42 said:
and ##|z-\mu|=|(z - \omega ) - \nu | < 2\varepsilon## .

How did you get to this step though , this is the one I am stuck on, which claims to use group properties I think. In the course book, a course In complex arithmetic by jones and singerman, something like that, unfortunately I don't have the book anymore, it is drawn as a diagram , shifting the point in the complex plane, with the same radius, and says by using group properties...
 
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fresh_42 said:
So? They are not equally spaced. We have a lattice with a parallelepiped as basis cell, i.e. two side of possibly different lengths. Along one direction they have to be equally spaced, because of the minimality of our choices ##\omega_j ##. As sums and differences are still elements of ##\Omega##, any shorter point would lead to a smaller ##\omega_j ##.

To sound really stupid...how'd you mean only along one direction they have to be equally spaced ? I thought a parallelogram has both sets of parallel lines have the opposite parallel line equal in length .
 
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binbagsss said:
How did you get to this step though , this is the one I am stuck on, which claims to use group properties I think. In the course book, a course In complex arithmetic by jones and singerman, something like that, unfortunately I don't have the book anymore, it is drawn as a diagram , shifting the point in the complex plane, with the same radius, and says by using group properties...
To be honest: I scribbled some circles around ##z## and ##\omega##, to imagine the situation. All we have here is the triangle inequality. The group property is only used to grant that certain points are still in ##\Omega##.
binbagsss said:
To sound really stupid...how'd you mean only along one direction they have to be equally spaced ? I thought a parallelogram has both sets of parallel lines have the opposite parallel line equal in length .
Sure, but the points are not spread in equal distances, only a square would have: ##\omega_1 \perp \omega_2\; , \;|\omega_1| = |\omega_2|##. In general, two diagonal points have a greater distance than two neighbored points, and between the two neighbors, there is also one closer than the other. Only in one direction ##\omega_i## are all points equal hops.
 
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binbagsss said:
How did you get to this step though , this is the one I am stuck on, which claims to use group properties I think. In the course book, a course In complex arithmetic by jones and singerman, something like that, unfortunately I don't have the book anymore, it is drawn as a diagram , shifting the point in the complex plane, with the same radius, and says by using group properties...

Suppose [itex]|z - \omega| < 2\epsilon[/itex] contains an element [itex]\zeta \in \Omega \setminus \{\omega\}[/itex].

Then it follows by closure that [itex]\zeta - \omega \in \Omega \setminus \{0\}[/itex]. But by definition [itex]|\zeta - \omega| < 2\epsilon[/itex], which is a contradiction.
 
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pasmith said:
Suppose [itex]|z - \omega| < 2\epsilon[/itex] contains an element [itex]\zeta \in \Omega \setminus \{\omega\}[/itex].

Then it follows by closure that [itex]\zeta - \omega \in \Omega \setminus \{0\}[/itex]. But by definition [itex]|\zeta - \omega| < 2\epsilon[/itex], which is a contradiction.
Ok thanks I understand how to do the step with this arguement.

Why do he notes say ' because it is a group ' though, only discreetness has been used right ?
 
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fresh_42 said:
To be honest: I scribbled some circles around ##z## and ##\omega##, to imagine the situation. All we have here is the triangle inequality. The group property is only used to grant that certain points are still in ##\Omega##.

How's would you use the triangle inequality ? I understand the argument used below by contradiction but not sure how you would use the triangle inequality for this ?

Also why do the notes say ' since ##\Omega ## is a group ?

Thanks
 
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binbagsss said:
How's would you use the triangle inequality ? I understand the argument used below by contradiction but not sure how you would use the triangle inequality for this ?
See post #2.
Also why do the notes say ' since ##\Omega ## is a group ?

Thanks
Because we have a sum of two points of ##\Omega## and use that this is again in ##\Omega##.
 
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fresh_42 said:
See post #2.
Because we have a sum of two points of ##\Omega## and use that this is again in ##\Omega##.
Mm sorry yes thsnks, I overlooked that since the sum of two periods being a period seems intuitively
 

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