Proof of a vectoral differentation identity by levi civita symbol

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The discussion revolves around proving a vector differentiation identity involving the Levi-Civita symbol and tensor notation, specifically the identity ∇x(ψv)=ψ(∇xv)-vx(∇ψ). Participants are exploring the application of tensor calculus in this context.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • One participant attempts to derive the identity by evaluating the nth component using the Levi-Civita symbol and expresses uncertainty about the next steps. Others question the use of multiple Levi-Civita symbols and clarify the nature of ψ as a scalar. There are suggestions to apply the product rule for differentiation and to consider the components of the vector involved.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing their thoughts and clarifications. Some guidance has been provided regarding the application of the product rule and the correct interpretation of the components involved. There is no explicit consensus yet, but the conversation is progressing towards a clearer understanding.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of tensor notation and vector calculus, with some expressing limitations in their knowledge of applicable identities. The discussion reflects a mix of attempts and clarifications regarding the mathematical framework being used.

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Homework Statement



prove,
∇x(ψv)=ψ(∇xv)-vx(∇ψ)
using levi civita symbol and tensor notations

Homework Equations



εijkεimnjnδkmknδjm

The Attempt at a Solution




i tried for nth component

εnjk (d/dxjklm ψl vm

εknjεklm (d/dxj) ψl vm

using εijkεimnjnδkmknδjm

i got,

(d/dxjn vj - (d/dxjj vn

But, i can't go further. I think only one simple step is left to show it is equal to the right hand side of the given identity. But how?
 
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Hi advphys,

That identity is not applicable here. Why do you have two levi-civita symbols? And ψ is a scalar, not a vector.

(∇ x ψv)i = εijk(∂/∂xj)ψvk
 
Because i may not know any other identity. :D

I thought for (ψv)k term i may have one more levi civita symbol.
 
Just evaluate the derivative using the product rule, and remember that (∇ψ)i = ∂ψ/∂xi
 
advphys said:
I thought for (ψv)k term i may have one more levi civita symbol.

ψv is a vector with components ψvi, so the cross product ∇ x ψv is simply the vector with components εijk(∂/∂xj)(ψvk)
 
Oh, yes. Definitely.
Thanks a lot, i got that.
 
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