Proof of Bland's Example 13: Simple Modules and Quotients of Maximal Modules

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The discussion revolves around proving a statement from Paul E. Bland's book regarding maximal submodules and their implications for simple modules. The focus is on understanding the proof of a specific claim in Example 13, which states that if \(N\) is a maximal submodule of \(M\), then the quotient \(M/N\) is a simple \(R\)-module. Participants are seeking clarification and formal proof related to this concept.

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  • Peter seeks help in proving that \(M/N\) is a simple \(R\)-module when \(N\) is a maximal submodule of \(M\).
  • Euge explains that to show a submodule \(\Sigma\) of \(M/N\) is either zero or the whole module, one must consider its pre-image \(S\) under the natural projection \(M \to M/N\), which is a submodule of \(M\) containing \(N\).
  • Peter requests further clarification on why the pre-image \(S\) contains \(N\) and asks for a proof of this assertion.
  • Euge references the lattice isomorphism theorem to explain that if \(n \in N\), then \(\pi(n) = 0 \in \Sigma\), leading to the conclusion that \(N\) is contained in \(S\).

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Participants are engaged in a constructive dialogue, with no explicit disagreements noted. However, the discussion remains focused on clarifying the proof rather than establishing a consensus on the broader implications of the theorem.

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The discussion involves assumptions related to the properties of maximal submodules and the application of the lattice isomorphism theorem, which may not be fully detailed in the posts.

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I am reading Paul E. Bland's book, "Rings and Their Modules".

I am focused on Chapter 1, Section 1.4 Modules ... ...

I need help with the proving a statement Bland makes in Example 13 ... ...

Example 13 reads as follows:View attachment 6387In the above text from Bland, we read the following:

" ... If $$N$$ is a maximal submodule of $$M$$, then it follows that $$M/N$$ is a simple $$R$$-module ... ... "I do not understand why this is true ... can anyone help with a formal proof of this statement ...
Hope someone can help ...

Peter
 
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Let $\Sigma$ be a submodule of $M/N$. It must be shown that $\Sigma$ is either zero or the whole module $M/N$. Its pre-image $S$ under the natural projection $M\to M/N$ is a submodule of $M$ containing $N$. Maximality of $N$ implies $S = N$ or $S = M$. If $S = N$, then $\Sigma$ is zero; if $S = M$, then $\Sigma = M/N$.
 
Euge said:
Let $\Sigma$ be a submodule of $M/N$. It must be shown that $\Sigma$ is either zero or the whole module $M/N$. Its pre-image $S$ under the natural projection $M\to M/N$ is a submodule of $M$ containing $N$. Maximality of $N$ implies $S = N$ or $S = M$. If $S = N$, then $\Sigma$ is zero; if $S = M$, then $\Sigma = M/N$.

Thanks for the help, Euge ...

But ... can you help a bit further ...

You write:

" ... ... Its pre-image $S$ under the natural projection $M\to M/N$ is a submodule of $M$ containing $N$. ... ... "Can you explain why this is true ... can you indicate how this is proved ...

Peter
 
You actually learned this already from the lattice isomorphism theorem. Let $\pi$ denote the natural projection. The module $N$ is contained in $S$, for if $n\in N$, then $\pi(n) = 0\in \Sigma$. Therefore $n\in \pi^{-1}(\Sigma) = S$. Since $n$ was arbitrary, $S$ contains $N$.
 
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Euge said:
You actually learned this already from the lattice isomorphism theorem. Let $\pi$ denote the natural projection. The module $N$ is contained in $S$, for if $n\in N$, then $\pi(n) = 0\in \Sigma$. Therefore $n\in \pi^{-1}(\Sigma) = S$. Since $n$ was arbitrary, $S$ contains $N$.
Thanks Euge ... appreciate your help ...

Peter
 

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