Proof of distributive and product rule

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The discussion revolves around proving the distributive property of the dot product and the product rule in calculus, specifically for vector-valued functions. Participants are exploring the mathematical foundations and properties related to these concepts.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the validity of the expressions provided, with some questioning the correctness of the initial formulation of the distributive property. Others suggest looking into the standard product rule proof as a potential guide for approaching the problem.

Discussion Status

Some participants have shared insights on verifying algebraic and calculus properties related to vectors. There is an acknowledgment of the need for further exploration of the product rule, with no explicit consensus reached on the initial expressions.

Contextual Notes

One participant notes the importance of confirming the algebraic properties of dot products and limits as they apply to vector functions, indicating a potential area of confusion or misinterpretation in the original problem statement.

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1. Prove a) r=(u*v)=r*u+r*v and b) d/dt(r*s)=r*ds/st+dr/dt*s
2. Homework Equations : b) dr/dt=lim t->0=Δr/Δt and Δr=r(t+Δt)-r(t)
3. Attempt at the solution:
Okay, so I was able to work out part a but I'm not quite sure how to start part b. Could anyone point me toward a useful resource to explain how to approach this problem? I'm not looking for an answer, just a means to an answer.

(* is dot product)
 
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srhelfrich said:
1. Prove a) r=(u*v)=r*u+r*v and b) d/dt(r*s)=r*ds/st+dr/dt*s



2. Homework Equations : b) dr/dt=lim t->0=Δr/Δt and Δr=r(t+Δt)-r(t)



3. Attempt at the solution:
Okay, so I was able to work out part a but I'm not quite sure how to start part b. Could anyone point me toward a useful resource to explain how to approach this problem? I'm not looking for an answer, just a means to an answer.

(* is dot product)

Are you familiar with a proof of the standard product rule; i.e. the version that says (fg)'=f'g+fg'? The proof of this version shouldn't look significantly different.
 
Thank you! I looked it up and you're right, I see where they start with the limit and expand from there. Much appreciated!
 
Alright then. The key things you'll want to verify (if you haven't already) are that the algebra $$\mathbf{u}\cdot(\mathbf{v}+\mathbf{w})=\mathbf u\cdot\mathbf v+\mathbf{u}\cdot\mathbf{w},\ \ c(\mathbf{u}\cdot\mathbf{v})=(c\mathbf{u})\cdot\mathbf{v}$$ and calculus
$$\lim_{t\rightarrow a}\left(\mathbf u(t)+\mathbf v(t)\right)=\lim_{t\rightarrow a}\mathbf u(t)+\lim_{t\rightarrow a}\mathbf v(t), \ \ \lim_{t\rightarrow a}\left(\mathbf u(t)\cdot\mathbf v(t)\right)=\lim_{t\rightarrow a}\mathbf u(t)\cdot\lim_{t\rightarrow a}\mathbf v(t)$$
work the same with vectors/vector-valued functions as they do with numbers/real-valued functions.
 
srhelfrich said:
1. Prove a) r=(u*v)=r*u+r*v

This certainly isn't true! You mean "r*(u+ v)= r*u+ r*v" don't you?

and b) d/dt(r*s)=r*ds/st+dr/dt*s
2. Homework Equations : b) dr/dt=lim t->0=Δr/Δt and Δr=r(t+Δt)-r(t)



3. Attempt at the solution:
Okay, so I was able to work out part a but I'm not quite sure how to start part b. Could anyone point me toward a useful resource to explain how to approach this problem? I'm not looking for an answer, just a means to an answer.

(* is dot product)
 

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