Proof: Partition Function of 3 Systems A, B, & C

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The partition function for three systems A, B, and C can be expressed as Z_{ABC} = Z_{A}Z_{B}Z_{C} when the energy forms are independent, allowing the total energy to be written as ε_{total} = ε_{A} + ε_{B} + ε_{C}. Independence is crucial for transitioning from the total partition function to the product of individual partition functions, as it implies non-interaction between the systems. However, this factorization fails in cases of strong interactions or when dealing with indistinguishable particles, despite the total energy being additive. Understanding these conditions is essential for accurately applying the partition function in statistical mechanics.
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Homework Statement



For three systems A, B, and C it is approximately true that Z_{ABC}=Z_{A}Z_{B}Z_{C}. Prove this and specify under what conditions this is expected to hold.

Homework Equations



Z is the partition function given by Z=∑e^{-ε/KT}
ε is energy, T is temperature and K is Boltzmann constant.

The Attempt at a Solution



let say that A is the translational, B is the vibrational and C is the rotational energy levels for diatomic molecule.

To a good approximation the different forms of molecular energy are independent, so that we can write

ε_{total}= ε_{A}+ε_{B}+ε_{C}​

Since Z=e^{-ε/KT}, the sum in the exponents becomes a product.

Z_{total}=(∑e^{-ε/KT})_{A}(∑e^{-ε/KT})_{B}(∑e^{-ε/KT})_{C}

Z_{ABC}=Z_{A}Z_{B}Z_{C}​

But what will be the conditions?
 
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NewtonApple said:
To a good approximation the different forms of molecular energy are independent, so that we can write

ε_{total}= ε_{A}+ε_{B}+ε_{C}​

When are the Energies in each different form NOT independent? (Think extremes, here!)
 
You are right that independence is important, but I don't think you've used that assumption in the right way.
ε_{total}= ε_{A}+ε_{B}+ε_{C} is true anyway. Don't you need the independence to get from
##Z_{total}=\Sigma_S e^{-ε_{tot}/KT}##
to
##Z_{total}=\Sigma_A \Sigma_B \Sigma_C e^{-ε_{tot}/KT}##
?
I.e. the microstates of the combined system are merely the combinations of the microstates of the separate systems.
 
I might not be interpreting the word "independence" the same as way others are. I think of it as meaning non-interacting.

Non-interaction of A, B, and C is important in being able to write εtotal = εA + εB + εC. An example where the energy cannot be written this way is a system with a potential energy of interaction U(A,B) between subsystems A and B.

Also, there are systems for which the subsystems are strongly interacting but yet the sum over microstates of the total system can still be written as a multiple sum over the microstates of the subsystems. For example, consider a system of 3 interacting spins (A, B, and C) as in the 1D Ising model (See here, especially slide 5). (But the partition function of the total system does not factor into a product of individual partition functions due to the fact that the energy cannot be written as εtotal = εA + εB + εC .)

Even for a system of three non-interacting particles A, B, and C (e.g., three non-interacting particles in a box), there is an important situation where the partition function does not factor as Z = ZA ZB ZC. Think about the case where the particles are indistinguishable. Note that Z doesn't factor even though εtotal = εA + εB + εC.
 
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