Proof Q(sqrt(2)) is Subfield of R

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The discussion centers on proving that Q(sqrt(2)) is a subfield of R. Participants clarify that Q consists of rational numbers, while R represents real numbers. The proof involves demonstrating that operations such as addition, subtraction, and multiplication are preserved within Q(sqrt(2)), defined as a + b(sqrt(2)), where a and b are rational numbers. The challenge lies in proving the existence of inverses for elements in Q(sqrt(2)), which is essential for establishing it as a subfield.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of field theory and subfields
  • Familiarity with rational numbers (Q) and real numbers (R)
  • Knowledge of operations on numbers involving square roots
  • Basic algebraic manipulation skills
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  • Study the properties of fields and subfields in abstract algebra
  • Learn how to prove closure under addition, subtraction, and multiplication in fields
  • Explore the concept of inverses in field theory, particularly in Q(sqrt(2))
  • Investigate examples of other subfields of R for comparative analysis
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Homework Statement



proof that Q(sqrt(2)) is a subfield of R

Homework Equations


Q= rational numers, R= real numbers.


The Attempt at a Solution


Clearly (sqrt(2)) is a subgroup of R. Then a[sqrt2]. b[sqrt2] are elements of Q[sqrt2] if a and b are eleemnts of Q. Therefore Q[sqrt2] contains at least two elements.
2. a[sqrtb]-b[sqrt2] is an element of Q[sqrt2] since a-b is an element of Q since Q is closed under subtraction.
From there I have to prove that a[sqrt2]*[b[sqret2]^-1] are elements of Q[sqrt2] but i don't know how to do this. Any help would be appreciated.
 
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It looks like you have a mistake in the definitions...

What is the definition of Q[sqrt(2)]?
 
This could depend a lot on what you're studying right now, and what you are/aren't allowed to use. But I'd just note that Q is a subfield of R, and sqrt(2) is in R, and look at the definition of Q(sqrt(2)).
 
Q is defined as a+b(sqrt2). So subtraction is obviosly preserved, but I have no idea what to do with the inverses
 
All right. Do you remember how to divide complex numbers? The same trick can be applied here to find the inverses in \mathbb{Q}[\sqrt2].

Just note that
a^2 - 2b^2 \neq 0
whenever a, b \in \mathbb{Q} unless a = b = 0.
 
tyrannosaurus said:
Q is defined as a+b(sqrt2). So subtraction is obviosly preserved, but I have no idea what to do with the inverses
Try solving a linear equation!

Wait a moment -- what do you need to do with inverses? Why do they need to be considered specially at all?
 

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