Proof regarding property of continuity

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The discussion revolves around proving a property of continuity related to a functional equation, specifically that if a function f(x) satisfies f(x+y) = f(x) + f(y) and is continuous, then it can be expressed as f(x) = cx for some constant c.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore various aspects of the proof, including the implications of continuity and the behavior of the function at specific points. There are attempts to simplify the proof and to establish relationships for integer and rational multiples of the function.

Discussion Status

Some participants have raised questions about the validity of the original proof and its complexity. Others suggest alternative approaches, such as proving properties for integer and rational inputs, and discuss the necessity of continuity in the argument. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of the functional equation and continuity.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the function must be defined appropriately, and there are discussions about the implications of f(0) = 0 and the behavior of f at limits. The continuity condition is debated in terms of its necessity for extending results from rational to real numbers.

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Homework Statement



Prove that if f(x) satisfies the functional equation f(x+y) = f(x) + f(y) and if f is continuous then f(x) = cx for some constant c.


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Assume |f(a)| > |ca| for some a in the domain of f. Since f is continuous at every point then for every e > 0 we can find a d > 0 such that |f(x) - f(x+a)| < e whenever |x - (x+a)| < d.
We have |f(x) - (f(x) + f(a)| = |-f(a)| = |f(a)| < e whenever |a| < d. Since |ca| < f(a)| < e then |ca| < e, implying that |a| < e/|c|. Thus we can take d = e/|c|, implying that
|c|d = e. Now, since d would be points on the x-axis and e points on the y axis, then we have y = |c|x, or f(x) = cx for all x in the domain of f. However, we said that |f(a)| > |ca|. So this is a contradiction.

If we assume |f(a)| < |ca| for some a in the domain of f, then we have again |f(a)| < e whenever |a| < d. However, we don't know if |f(a)| < |ca| < e or |f(a)| < e < |ca|. If it's |f(a)| < |ca| < e then we can continuous with our proof using the same argument as before. If it's |f(a)| < e < |ca| then we can't. However, the function g(x) = cx is also continuous for all x and so we have |f(a)| < |ca| < e'. Then |a| < e'/|c| and we can choose d = e'|c|, implying that |c|d = e', implying that |c|x = y = f(x). This is again a contradiction, so therefore |f(x)| = |cx|. So if f(x) > 0 then f(x) = cx. And if f(x) < 0 then -f(x) = -(cx), implying that f(x) = cx. Therefore f(x) = cx. QED

Is this a valid proof? I found the question difficult so I want to make sure that the proof is correct.
 
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The reason why I think my proof is not valid is because the assumption is that for some x = a, with a < d, we have f(a) < ca and f(a) > ca. Since a is less then d, then it's okay if |c|d = e. But on the other hand, the equation |c|d = e must hold for every positive d, and if d is negative, we have |c|(-d) = -e, also, it is easy to prove that f(0) = 0 for this function, so shouldn't the whole function also be f(x) = |c|x?
 
I haven't really read your proof, because it looks like it's overly complicated. This problem is simpler than that. You said you noticed that f(0)=0. Try proving that in fact f(nx)=nf(x) for every integer n (positive and negative). Then use this to prove that f(rx)=rf(x) for every rational r. Finally, use the density of the rationals.

Of course all of this is assuming f is defined from R into R.
 
Assuming f is defined in the appropriate domain:
If f(a) is not zero for some a (otherwise we are done).
What is \lim_{n \to \infty}\frac{f(a/n)}{a/n}?

What does that tell us about \lim_{h \to 0}\frac{f(h)}{h}?

Finally, can we determine if f'(x) exists and what it is?
 
morphism said:
I haven't really read your proof, because it looks like it's overly complicated. This problem is simpler than that. You said you noticed that f(0)=0. Try proving that in fact f(nx)=nf(x) for every integer n (positive and negative). Then use this to prove that f(rx)=rf(x) for every rational r. Finally, use the density of the rationals.

Of course all of this is assuming f is defined from R into R.

It seems that the continuity of the function is not needed in such proof? I'm not sure if I miss something...
 
boombaby said:
It seems that the continuity of the function is not needed in such proof? I'm not sure if I miss something...

You need the continuity to go from f(rx)=rf(x) for all rational r to all real r.
 
yea... I got it now. it needs the continuity to have f(x)=lim_{rational r-&gt;x}f(r)=lim_{r-&gt;x}rf(1)=xf(1).
Thanks
 
Morphism, thanks for the help. I managed to prove f(nx) = nf(x), now I'm working on it for f(rx) = rf(x). I'll post up my proof tomorrow as tonight is thanks giving (over here in Canada at least) and I'll be busy all night.
 

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