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The problem involves proving that the equation \(\frac{c}{x-1} + \frac{d}{x-3}=0\) has at least one solution in the interval (1,3), where \(c\) and \(d\) are positive constants. The context is centered around the Intermediate Value Theorem and the continuity of the function defined by the equation.

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  • Participants discuss the continuity of the function on the open interval (1,3) and the implications for applying the Intermediate Value Theorem. Some participants question whether the theorem can be applied given the open interval, while others suggest alternative methods for finding solutions.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem and the applicability of the Intermediate Value Theorem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the continuity proof and the conditions necessary for the theorem's application.

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There is a focus on the distinction between open and closed intervals, and participants express concerns about the validity of certain proofs and assumptions made in the discussion. The original poster is expected to adhere to the constraints of the homework assignment.

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Homework Statement



Prove that if c and d are positive, then the equation

[tex]\frac{c}{x-1} + \frac{d}{x-3}=0[/tex]

has at least one solution in the interval (1,3)

Homework Equations


Intermediate Theorem

If f is continuous on [a,b], and if f(a) and f(b) are nonzero and have opposite signs, then there is at least one solution of the equation f(x)=0 in the interval (a,b).


The Attempt at a Solution



The problem is that I got open interval (i.e not closed), (1,3).

I started by proving that the function above is continuous on (1,3).
[tex]\lim_{x\rightarrow k}\frac{c}{x-1} + \frac{d}{x-3}=\lim_{x\rightarrow k} \frac{c(x-3)+d(x-1)}{(x-1)(x-3)}= \lim_{x\rightarrow k}\frac{x(c+d)-3c-d}{(x-1)(x-3)}[/tex]

Now because there is open interval, [itex]k \neq 1,3[/itex] and

[tex]\lim_{x\rightarrow k}\frac{x(c+d)-3c-d}{(x-1)(x-3)} = \frac{k(c+d)-3c-d}{(k-1)(k-3)}[/tex]

Hence I proved that the function [itex]\frac{c}{x-1} + \frac{d}{x-3}[/itex] is continuous on the interval (1,3).

Now the problem is to prove that there is at least one solution in the interval (1,3). If it was closed interval, it would be much easier, since the only condition would need to be satisfied would be to check f(1)>0 and f(3)<0 or vice verse. But the values 1,3 are not in the domain of the function.

Please help me!
 
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I think you can do this problem without either limits or the Intermediate Value Theorem, which doesn't apply anyway, since you don't have the closed interval [1, 3].

Start with
[tex]\frac{c}{x-1} + \frac{d}{x-3}~=~0[/tex]
Both fractions are defined for all x in (1, 3).

Combine the fractions into a single fraction:
[tex]\frac{c(x - 3) + d(x - 1)}{(x - 3)(x-1)}~=~0[/tex]
Now solve for x.
 
Thanks. I know that I can solve the equation that way, so that

[tex]x=\frac{3c+d}{c+d}[/tex]

Now because c>0 and d>0, c+d>0, so that c+d [itex]\neq[/itex] 0, and there is only one solution of the equation. But this task is under the section of Intermediate theorem, so I am supposed to solve it using the theorem.

My textbook is Calculus (Seventh Edition) by Howard Anton, Irl Bivens and Stephen Davis.
 
Just because the problem is in the Intermediate Value Theorem section does not necessarily mean you have to use that theorem. As I said before, the conditions of that theorem aren't met. Your interval is (1, 3), not [1, 3], and you can't evaluate f(1) and f(3) to see if they are of different signs.

If the problem doesn't explicitly say you have to use a particular technique, then don't assume you have to. Anyway, I provided a way to reach the desired conclusion. Take it or leave it.
 
your continuity "proof" isn't even a proper proof

anyway, Mark is probably right, I've seen in some textbooks, they have "irrelevant" questions because they want to remind you of something that you may have to use for a more relevant question in the same section
 
emyt said:
your continuity "proof" isn't even a proper proof

anyway, Mark is probably right, I've seen in some textbooks, they have "irrelevant" questions because they want to remind you of something that you may have to use for a more relevant question in the same section

Ok. But why my continuity proof is not a correct one? To prove that its continuous everywhere, we need to choose number c so that the lim (x->c) f(x) = f(c).
 
Consider a closed interval [1+epsilon, 3-epsilon] instead. You should always be able to find a solution in that interval if you make epsilon small enough.
 
njama said:
Ok. But why my continuity proof is not a correct one? To prove that its continuous everywhere, we need to choose number c so that the lim (x->c) f(x) = f(c).

yes, but rigourously, you actually have to SHOW that the lim x->c f(x) = f(c). you just can't plug c into f(x) and say that it is therefore continuous
 

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