Propeller thrust in restricted air flow environment

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This discussion focuses on the relationship between propeller thrust and air density in a restricted airflow environment. It establishes that thrust and torque are directly influenced by changes in air density, which varies with pressure. Key equations provided include thrust (T = Kt * dens * N^2 * D^4) and torque (Q = Kq * dens * N^2 * D^5), where Kt and Kq are experimental coefficients. The conversation also highlights the importance of the Blade Element Momentum Theory and the Ideal Gas Law for understanding these dynamics.

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  • Understanding of fluid dynamics and compressible fluids
  • Familiarity with propeller mechanics and performance metrics
  • Basic knowledge of the Ideal Gas Law
  • Mathematical proficiency in applying equations related to thrust and torque
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  • Research the Blade Element Momentum Theory for propeller analysis
  • Study the Ideal Gas Law and its applications in fluid density calculations
  • Explore experimental coefficients Kt and Kq for propeller performance
  • Investigate software tools for simulating propeller dynamics in varying air densities
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Aerospace engineers, drone developers, and anyone involved in the design and optimization of propellers in varying airflow conditions will benefit from this discussion.

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looking at where to start understanding how the thrust/lift generated by a specific propeller (hypothetical one) changes as a function of surrounding air pressure.

obviously the lift will go to zero as air pressure decreases.

as pressure increases, modeled by say mounting the propeller inside a sealed air chamber not much bigger in diameter than the propeller diameter and say 10 times the volume, how is lift effected and why?

no specific calculation required, just trying to get my head around the physics.

thanks any replies.
 
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Hi Holulahound:
That's not a question of presure, but of density. Air is a compressible fluid, hence, density is not constant with pressure. Thrust and Torque of a propeller are directly related to density. Hence, when pressure changes, density changes as well and then, Thrust and Torque do the same.

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That Ion, I expected a change, can you link me to any relevant math?
 
Hi Houlahound
We have no perfect propeller mathematical model by now. Anyway ...some notes ...

Propeller thrust at working RPM:
T= Kt dens N^2 D^4

Required torque at working RPM
Q= Kq dens N^2 D^5

Kt and Kq are experimental coefficients
dens --> fluid density
N ------> Propeller rotation rate given in Herz N= RPM/60
D -----> Propeller diameter

Efficiency is given by the relation between input and output power (Power consumed by the propeller and power delivered)

eff= T V/(2 PI N Q)

Although there is no perfect model,my advice is that having a look to the "Blade Element Momentum Theory" could be a good starting point for "grabbing" the key concepts about how a propeller works.

For an approach to air density at given conditions, the Ideal gas equation can be used: dens= (P M)/(R T)
Where:
P --->> Pressure
M --->> Molar mass (Air is a mixture not a single element --- Use any standard)
T -->> Absolute Temperature
R -->> Ideal gas constant (Value will depend on units)Dont hersitate asking again if needed.

Regards
 
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Thanks great starting point, I will look into it.

I am building a racing drone at this very moment, going to use the free download flight control software and some load cells to measure the bejesus out of it.

Spare time project, expect to get results possibly this year.
 

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