Proper Disposal of an Upright Piano: Tips and Precautions

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The discussion revolves around the proper disposal of an upright piano, exploring various methods and considerations for dismantling or salvaging the instrument. Participants discuss the implications of repairability, safety precautions, and alternative options for disposal.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest unscrewing parts before dismantling, while others propose simply smashing it to pieces.
  • There is a concern about whether the piano is beyond repair, with some arguing that it could be salvaged for a child learning to play.
  • Participants note the dangers of smashing the piano due to the tension in the strings, which could cause injury if they snap.
  • One participant mentions that many organizations will accept pianos in poor condition for parts or to find a new home for them.
  • Another viewpoint emphasizes that pianos generally have a limited lifespan, and unless they are valuable antiques, it may not be worth repairing.
  • There are suggestions for safely removing tension from the strings before dismantling the piano to prevent injury.
  • Some participants share ideas for repurposing parts of the piano, such as using it for storage or turning it into furniture.
  • Concerns are raised about the stability of upright pianos during moving, highlighting the need for proper handling and multiple people to assist.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of opinions on whether the piano should be repaired, salvaged, or destroyed. There is no consensus on the best approach, with multiple competing views remaining throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various assumptions regarding the condition of the piano, the potential for repair, and the safety measures necessary during dismantling. The discussion does not resolve these uncertainties.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals considering the disposal of a piano, those interested in instrument repair or repurposing, and anyone seeking safety advice for dismantling large objects may find this discussion relevant.

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Would it be best to unscrew everything first or just smash it to pieces?
 
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: Is it completely beyond repair? Seems a shame to destroy a piano if it's repairable. Someone might appreciate it for a child starting piano lessons if they can get repairs done cheaper than buying a working one.

If it is damaged beyond repair and you just need to break it own to haul away, remember the strings inside are all under tension, so just smashing might have some undesirable results of parts attached to strings snapping at you. You also might have some salvageable parts someone could use to repair another piano if it's not all smashed up.
 
wolram said:
Would it be best to unscrew everything first or just smash it to pieces?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJgt-HO0_kY
 
Wear eye protection if you smash it. The tension in the wires is high enough to take out an eye.
 
Ivan Seeking said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJgt-HO0_kY

Fantastic Ivan i watched that twice, it is a shame this piano has terminal wood worm.
 
Antiphon said:
Wear eye protection if you smash it. The tension in the wires is high enough to take out an eye.
Those strings are under a lot of tension. And yes, they can put the hurt on you if they break.
 
Donate it someone will probably be willing to come and pick it up even. It doesn't need to be in great shape either lots of places will take just about any piano you can toss at them as they will either use the parts to repair others or find it a home with people who would never be able to even afford a used one.
 
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Moonbear said:
: Is it completely beyond repair? Seems a shame to destroy a piano if it's repairable. Someone might appreciate it for a child starting piano lessons if they can get repairs done cheaper than buying a working one.

The bottom line is that there probably isn't anything worth salvagiing. Unlike violins, pianos don't naturally have a long life. Instruments like rehearsal pianos that get played hard for 8 or 10 hours a day are scrap after a couple of years. Obviously a $250,000 Steinway is going to last longer than that, but I guess that's not what we are talking about here!

Unless it's got some value as antique furniture or some real historical interest as an instrument (e.g. it's more than say 150 years old) it would be cheaper to buy a factory built modern piano than pay to have it hand-restored.

Giving it to a kid to learn on isn't really a good idea either. If the kid has any interest or talent, they deserve something that will reward their efforts, not something where they will be fighting its defects rather than learning to play properly. Most musical instrument shops in the UK run schemes where you can rent an instrument for a year or two and then either buy at a discounted price or return it if the kid isn't interested or doesn't have any aptitude.

The safe way to demolish it is first take the tension off the strings. You should be able to find a socket spanner that will fit the tuning pegs. To avoid cracking the cast iron frame, start by lowering the pitch of ALL the strings by two or three notes. That will mean quite a small amount of turning the pins - check by playing a note and detuning it. Then repeat for ALL the notes, then you can wind off the tension completely.

Beware of breaking piano wires. The broken ends can do a lot of damage if they whiplash you. The safest way is not to take anything apart, except the minimum required to get at the tuining pins, before you take the tension off the strings. Then the rest of the piano will protect you if anything does break.
 
Here's how to demolish a grand piano. Watch and learn.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoTyDD0C93U
 
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Performance of a piece of music by Annea Lockwood
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXcpSUsGldg
 
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Remove the action and strings and use it for storage. I once saw an old upright piano turned into a bar.
 
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Flames? Destruction!?

Please don't get me started...

It's a new year!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cQ-yGCyjyM

I was only 7...

What did I know?

Woolie. Give it up. There may be someone who could turn such an instrument into a thing of beauty. Put it at the end of the driveway, with a sign marked; "Free".

I'm sure some old sod will snatch it up.

Just don't destroy it. :cry:
 
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wolram said:
...it is a shame this piano has terminal wood worm.

Ah, too bad. Even in the clip, you'll see the piano used was already gutted of the wires.
 
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OmCheeto said:
Woolie. Give it up. There may be someone who could turn such an instrument into a thing of beauty. Put it at the end of the driveway, with a sign marked; "Free".

I'm sure some old sod will snatch it up.

Don't try moving it anywhere on your own. You need 3 people who know what they are doing, plus one of these: http://www.alanstuart.co.uk/removal/piano-truck.html

You can't use more than about 3 people, because there isn't enough piano for them all to get hold of when going through doorways etc. You need to plan ahead if there are narrow corridors etc, so people don't get "trapped" on the wrong side of the piano where they can't do anything useful.

Upright pianos are deceptively unstable - they are unexpectedly easily tip on their backs. That's not good news if some body parts end up underneath.
 
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