Proper Reference Frame -Accelerated observer

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This discussion revolves around the concept of a "proper reference frame" for an accelerated observer, as presented in section 13.6 of MTW. Participants explore the mathematical formulation of the 3-acceleration of a freely falling particle in relation to this reference frame, addressing the derivation of specific terms in the equations of motion.

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  • One participant describes the construction of local coordinates for an accelerated observer and the associated equations of motion, highlighting the term for 3-acceleration.
  • Another participant suggests that the conversion from the geodesic equation to the desired form introduces additional terms due to the metric, specifically mentioning the term involving \( a \cdot v \).
  • A participant expresses confusion regarding the transition from derivatives with respect to proper time \( \tau \) to those with respect to coordinate time \( x^0 \), seeking clarification on the origin of the term \( 2(a \cdot v)v \).
  • Another participant proposes starting from the directional derivative along the world line to derive the necessary terms, indicating how certain derivatives relate to the acceleration and velocity terms.
  • One participant expresses frustration with the notation used in MTW, indicating a preference for the notation in another text, Wald.

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Participants exhibit a mix of understanding and confusion regarding the derivation of specific terms in the equations. While some points are clarified, there remains uncertainty about the exact relationship between the derivatives and the terms in question, indicating that the discussion is not fully resolved.

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Participants note the complexity of the notation in MTW, which may contribute to misunderstandings. The discussion also highlights the dependence on specific mathematical steps and assumptions in deriving the terms related to the proper reference frame.

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"Proper Reference Frame"-Accelerated observer

Hi guys. This is regarding section 13.6 (p.327) in MTW. Here the authors consider an arbitrary accelerated observer in any space-time and construct a set of local coordinates carried along the entire worldline of the oberver with the origin of the coordinates comoving with the observer; they term this the "proper reference frame" of the accelerated observer. Note that they do not assume the observer's spatial basis vectors are Fermi-Walker transported along his/her worldline.

In ex.(13.14) they consider an accelerated observer and a freely falling particle that at some event is coincident with the origin of the observer's "proper reference frame". They say to show that the 3-acceleration of the freely falling particle relative to the "proper reference frame" at that event is given by ##\frac{\mathrm{d} ^{2}x^{j}}{\mathrm{d} x^{0^2}}e_j = -a - 2\omega \times v + 2(a\cdot v)v## where ##j = 1,2,3##, ##(e_j)## are the spatial basis vectors carried by the observer, ##\omega## is the angular velocity of rotation of the spatial basis vectors, ##v## is the 3-velocity of the freely falling particle, and ##a## is the acceleration of the observer him/herself.

Because this event is on the worldline of the observer (i.e. the origin ##x^j = 0## of the observer's "proper reference frame"), the non-zero christoffel symbols are all given in (13.69a) and (13.69b). Now the freely falling particle satisfies the equations of motion ##\nabla_u u = 0## as usual. Taking again ##j = 1,2,3## in the above coordinates, we simply calculate ##\frac{\mathrm{d} ^2 x^{j}}{\mathrm{d} \tau^2} = -\Gamma ^{j}_{\mu\nu}\frac{\mathrm{d} x^{\mu}}{\mathrm{d} \tau}\frac{\mathrm{d} x^{\nu}}{\mathrm{d} \tau}\\ = -\Gamma ^{j}_{00}(\frac{\mathrm{d} x^0}{\mathrm{d} \tau})^2 - 2\Gamma ^{j}_{k0}\frac{\mathrm{d} x^{k}}{\mathrm{d} \tau}\frac{\mathrm{d} x^0}{\mathrm{d} \tau} \\= -a^j(\frac{\mathrm{d} x^0}{\mathrm{d} \tau})^2 + 2\omega^{i}\epsilon_{0ijk}\frac{\mathrm{d} x^{k}}{\mathrm{d} x^0}(\frac{\mathrm{d} x^0}{\mathrm{d} \tau})^2\\ = (-a^j - 2(\omega \times v)^j)(\frac{\mathrm{d} x^0}{\mathrm{d} \tau})^2##
because all other Christoffel symbols vanish as per (13.69a) and (13.69b). I don't get where that third term ##2(a\cdot v)v## is coming from. Could someone point it out? Thanks in advance!
 
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I believe the point is that the desired equation contains a d2/dx02, whereas the geodesic equation contains d2/ds2, so you have to use the metric (13.71) to convert one to the other, and this produces the additional term. For example d/dx0 on the a·x in the metric will give you an a·v.
 
Hi Bill, thanks for the reply! I don't know how but I totally forgot that they wanted ##\frac{\mathrm{d} ^{2}x^{j}}{\mathrm{d} x^{0^{2}}}## and not ##\frac{\mathrm{d} ^{2}x^{j}}{\mathrm{d} \tau^2}## where, as before, ##\tau## is the proper time along the worldline of the freely falling particle. That certainly helped but I'm still a bit confused.

For example, we have ##\frac{\mathrm{d} ^{2}x^{j}}{\mathrm{d} x^{0^{2}}}e_j = \frac{\mathrm{d} \tau}{\mathrm{d} x^{0}}\frac{\mathrm{d} }{\mathrm{d} \tau}(\frac{\mathrm{d} \tau}{\mathrm{d} x^{0}}\frac{\mathrm{d} x^{j}}{\mathrm{d} \tau})e_j\\ = (\frac{\mathrm{d} \tau}{\mathrm{d} x^0})^{2}\frac{\mathrm{d} ^{2}x^{j}}{\mathrm{d} \tau^2}e_j + \frac{\mathrm{d} \tau}{\mathrm{d} x^0}\frac{\mathrm{d} x^{j}}{\mathrm{d} \tau}e_j(\frac{\mathrm{d} }{\mathrm{d} \tau}\frac{\mathrm{d} \tau}{\mathrm{d} x^0})\\ = -a - 2\omega \times v + v(\frac{\mathrm{d} }{\mathrm{d} \tau}\frac{\mathrm{d} \tau}{\mathrm{d} x^0})##

I just don't get how ##\frac{\mathrm{d} }{\mathrm{d} \tau}\frac{\mathrm{d} \tau}{\mathrm{d} x^0}## equals ##2a_i v^i## using (13.71) or otherwise. The freely falling particle isn't at rest in the "proper reference frame" of the accelerating observer so I don't get how the equality comes about.
 
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I'd say to start from the d/ds end, and use the fact that d/ds is a directional derivative along the world line:

d/ds = dt/ds ∂/∂t + dx/ds · ∂/∂x

When the dust clears, use the fact that this is evaluated at the origin, and set x = 0. So

d2/ds2 = (dt/ds ∂/∂t + dx/ds · ∂/∂x)(dt/ds ∂/∂t + dx/ds · ∂/∂x)
= (dt/ds)22/∂t2 + (∂/∂t)(dt/ds) ∂/∂t + dx/ds · ∂/∂x (dt/ds) ∂x/∂t + (dx/ds)22/∂x2

Then (∂/∂t)(dt/ds) = a·v so the second term is a·v v, and dx/ds · ∂/∂x (dt/ds) = v·a so the third term is a·v v also.

EDIT: Good illustration of why I don't like MTW! They seem to make up their notation ad hoc as they go along.
 
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Ah ok. That makes perfect sense, thank you again Bill! I appreciate the help :smile:

And yeah, I'm relatively new to MTW and their notation is making my head spin like crazy haha; I've gotten too used to the notation in Wald it would seem.
 

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