Prove Chi Square is Stochastically Increasing

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The discussion revolves around proving that the Chi-squared distribution is stochastically increasing with respect to its degrees of freedom. Specifically, the original poster seeks to establish that if p > q, then for any a, P(X^2_{p} > a) ≥ P(X^2_{q} > a), with strict inequality for some a.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the implications of the degrees of freedom on the Chi-squared distribution, discussing the relationship between different Chi-squared variables and their underlying normal distributions. There are attempts to leverage properties of the distributions and their cumulative distribution functions to establish the stochastic ordering.

Discussion Status

The conversation includes various attempts to clarify the original poster's reasoning and to suggest alternative approaches. Some participants provide hints and corrections, while others express confusion about the arguments presented. There is an ongoing exploration of the definitions and properties of the Chi-squared distribution, with no clear consensus reached yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of understanding the definitions of the Chi-squared distribution and its relationship to sums of squares of independent standard normal variables. There are also references to the Gamma and Poisson distributions as part of the discussion on proving the stochastic ordering.

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Homework Statement


Prove that the X^2 distribution is stochastically increasing in its degrees of freedom; that is if p>q, then for any a, P(X^2_{p} > a) \geq P(X^2_{q} > a), with strict inequality for some a.

Homework Equations


1.(n-1)S^2/\sigma^2 \sim X^2_{n-1}
2.The Chi squared(p) pdf is
f(x|p)= \frac 1{\Gamma(p/2) 2^{p/2}}x^{(p/2) - 1}e^{-x/2}

The Attempt at a Solution


Since p>q, this implies \forall a, \frac{\sigma^2 a}{p}< \frac{\sigma^2 a}{q}.
Also, X^2_{k} \sim kS^2/\sigma^2.

Therefore \forall a, P(X^2_{p}>a) = P(S^2 > \sigma^2 a/p) \geq P(S^2 > \sigma^2 a/q) = P(X^2_{q}>a).

If a>0, we observe strict inequality, as the support of S^2 is [0,\infty)...

What do you think? If I am going in the wrong direction, please steer me in the right one.
 
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Mogarrr said:

Homework Statement


Prove that the X^2 distribution is stochastically increasing in its degrees of freedom; that is if p>q, then for any a, P(X^2_{p} > a) \geq P(X^2_{q} > a), with strict inequality for some a.

Homework Equations


1.(n-1)S^2/\sigma^2 \sim X^2_{n-1}
2.The Chi squared(p) pdf is
f(x|p)= \frac 1{\Gamma(p/2) 2^{p/2}}x^{(p/2) - 1}e^{-x/2}

The Attempt at a Solution


Since p>q, this implies \forall a, \frac{\sigma^2 a}{p}< \frac{\sigma^2 a}{q}.
Also, X^2_{k} \sim kS^2/\sigma^2.

Therefore \forall a, P(X^2_{p}>a) = P(S^2 > \sigma^2 a/p) \geq P(S^2 > \sigma^2 a/q) = P(X^2_{q}>a).

If a>0, we observe strict inequality, as the support of S^2 is [0,\infty)...

What do you think? If I am going in the wrong direction, please steer me in the right one.

I cannot follow your argument. You need two different ##S^2## random variables---one for ##\chi^2_p## and a different one for ##\chi^2_q##. Basically, though, you need to know what ##\chi^2## really is, in simple, intuitive terms: if ##Y_r## has the distribution ##\chi^2_r## then
Y_r = Z_1^2 + Z_2^2 + \cdots + Z_r^2,
where ##Z_1, Z_2, \ldots, Z_r## are iid standard normal random variables.

When looking at stochastic ordering, you are entitled to use a common sample space ##\Omega##, since all that matters is how the distribution functions compare (not, for example, whether the two random variables are independent, or not). We can always "construct" a sample space such that the iid N(0,1) random variables ##Z_1, Z_2, \ldots, Z_p## are functions over ##\Omega## (so their values "observed" on a sample point ##\omega \in \Omega##) are ##Z_1(\omega), Z_2(\omega), \ldots, Z_p(\omega)##. Then
Y_q(\omega) = \sum_{j=1}^q Z_j(\omega)^2 \; \text{and} \;Y_p(\omega) = \sum_{j=1}^p Z_j(\omega)^2
For ##q < p##, what does that tell you?
 
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Based on your hint, here's what I'm thinking...

Well, then, if Z_{i} \sim N(0,1) (and i.i.d.) , and X^2_{n} = \sum_{i=1}^{n} Z_{i}, then X^2_{p} = pZ^2_1 and X^2_{q} = qZ^2_1.

Thus for all a, P(X^2_{p} &gt; a) = P(pZ^2_1 &gt; a ) = P(Z^2_1 &gt; \frac {a}{p}) \geq P(Z^2_1 &gt; \frac {a}{q}) = P(X^2_{q} &gt; 1), since p&gt;q. If a&gt;0, then there should be strict equality (I think).

Whatdya think?
 
Mogarrr said:
Based on your hint, here's what I'm thinking...

Well, then, if Z_{i} \sim N(0,1) (and i.i.d.) , and X^2_{n} = \sum_{i=1}^{n} Z_{i}, then X^2_{p} = pZ^2_1 and X^2_{q} = qZ^2_1.

Thus for all a, P(X^2_{p} &gt; a) = P(pZ^2_1 &gt; a ) = P(Z^2_1 &gt; \frac {a}{p}) \geq P(Z^2_1 &gt; \frac {a}{q}) = P(X^2_{q} &gt; 1), since p&gt;q. If a&gt;0, then there should be strict equality (I think).

Whatdya think?

I think you are writing down a bunch of material that makes no sense at all. Chi-squared = a sum of squares of iid N(0,1) random variables, not just a sum. I suggest you sit down, relax, and proceed slowly and carefully. Think about the actual definitions, and think about what I wrote in my previous response.

Alternatively, you can try to proceed directly: ##X## (with cdf ##F##) dominates ##Y## (with cdf ##G##) if ##G(x) \geq F(x)## for all ##x##, and ##>## holds for some ##x##. In other words, the stochastically larger random variable has a smaller cdf; that is, for each ##x##, it lies below the other one---so ##F## describes a distribution the lies to the "right" of ##G##. That means that the density functions ##f,g## must satisfy ##\int_0^x [g(t) - f(t)] \geq 0 ## for all ##x > 0##. You have formulas for ##f(t)## and ##g(t)##, so you can try to verify the cumulative ordering. That might be hard to do, so that is why I suggested an alternative approach.
 
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Oops. Should have written X^2_{n} = \sum^{n}_{i=1} Z^2_{i}. I was thinking that since the Z_{i}'s are identically distributed, that I could just sum up their squares, X^2_1. Why am I wrong here, if they're identically distributed?

I will try the direct method, since X^2_{p} \sim \Gamma(p/2, 2).

Update: Ok, I believe I've found a solid direct proof using the Chi square, Gamma and Poisson distribution. I'm excited, but busy now, so check tomorrow for my reply! And thanks for the help.
 
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Ok, there is a relationship between the Gamma and Poisson distribution. Let X \sim Gamma(\alpha, \beta), then
P(X \leq x) = P(Y \geq \alpha), where Y \sim Poisson(x/\beta).

Now let p &gt; q, p,q \in \mathbb{Z}^{+} a&gt;0, then
P(X^2_{p} &gt; a) &lt; P(X^2_{q} &gt; a)
\Leftrightarrow P(Y &gt; p) &lt; P(Y &gt; q)
\Leftrightarrow 0 &lt; P(Y&gt;q) - P(Y&gt;p)
\Leftrightarrow 0 &lt; \sum^{\infty}_{y=q/2} \frac {e^{-a/2}(a/2)^{y}}{y!} - \sum^{\infty}_{y=p/2} \frac{e^{-a/2}(a/2)^{p} }{y!}
= \sum^{p/2}_{y=q/2} \frac {e^{-a/2} (a/2)^{y} }{y!}.
The above is positive, proving a strict inequality for some a.

If a \notin \mathbb{R}^{+}, then
P(X^2_{p} &gt; a) = 1 = P(X^2_{q} &gt; a),
hence \forall a \in \mathbb{R}, P(X^2_{p} &gt; a) \geq P(X^2_{q} &gt; a), if p&gt;q.

I think this is right.
 

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