What Is the Lower Bound for a Product's Lifetime Using Tsebyshev's Inequality?

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The discussion revolves around applying Tsebyshev's inequality to determine the lower bound for the probability that a product lasts at least 5 years, given an average lifetime of 7.5 years and a variance of 0.41 years. Participants are exploring the implications of the inequality in the context of product lifetimes.

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  • Participants discuss the application of Tsebyshev's inequality, questioning the calculations and assumptions made regarding variance and deviation from the mean. There are attempts to clarify the correct use of the inequality and its implications for calculating probabilities.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and corrections regarding the application of the inequality. Some participants express uncertainty about the calculations, particularly concerning the squaring of the variance and the interpretation of the results. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored.

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There is a noted confusion regarding the correct application of Tsebyshev's inequality and the calculations involving variance. Participants are also grappling with the implications of the inequality for both lower and upper bounds of the probability.

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Homework Statement


The average lifetime of a product ##T=7.5## (years). The variance of the lifetime ##\sigma^{2} = 0.41##.

Using Tsebyshev's inequality, determine the lower bound for the probability, that the product lasts at least 5 years.

Homework Equations



Tsebyshev's inequality:
\begin{equation}
P(|X-\mu | \geq t) \leq \frac{\sigma^{2}}{t^2}
\iff
P(|X-\mu | < t) \geq 1 - \frac{\sigma^{2}}{t^2}
\end{equation}
where ##\mu## is the expected value, ##\sigma^2## is the variance and ##t## is the deviation from the expected value.

The Attempt at a Solution



We want
\begin{align*}
P(T \geq 5)
&\geq P(5 \leq T \leq 10)\\
&= P(|T-7.5| \leq 2.5) &|t=2.5\\
&\geq 1 - \frac{\sigma^2}{t^2} &| Tsebyshev\\
&= 1-\frac{0.41^2}{2.5^2}\\
&\approx 0.973
\end{align*}
This is apparently not the correct answer, and I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. We obviously want the deviation from the mean to be less than 2.5; otherwise ##|T-\mu|## would produce a value that is below 5.
 
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Edit: Why did you square the 0.41?

Some manual tuning: The worst case is some fraction p failing "just before" 5 years and all other machines failing after X years, X a bit larger than 7.5

The condition for the mean is then 5p+(1-p)*X = 7.5.
The condition for the variance is p*2.5^2 + (1-p)*(X-7.5)^2 = 0.41

Solving gives p=0.062 and X=7.66.
 
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mfb said:
Why do you think the answer is wrong?

You can use it for both. One gives a lower bound, the other gives an upper bound.
 
TheSodesa said:

Homework Statement


The average lifetime of a product ##T=7.5## (years). The variance of the lifetime ##\sigma^{2} = 0.41##.

Using Tsebyshev's inequality, determine the lower bound for the probability, that the product lasts at least 5 years.

Homework Equations



Tsebyshev's inequality:
\begin{equation}
P(|X-\mu | \geq t) \leq \frac{\sigma^{2}}{t^2}
\iff
P(|X-\mu | < t) \geq 1 - \frac{\sigma^{2}}{t^2}
\end{equation}
where ##\mu## is the expected value, ##\sigma^2## is the variance and ##t## is the deviation from the expected value.

The Attempt at a Solution



We want
\begin{align*}
P(T \geq 5)
&\geq P(5 \leq T \leq 10)\\
&= P(|T-7.5| \leq 2.5) &|t=2.5\\
&\geq 1 - \frac{\sigma^2}{t^2} &| Tsebyshev\\
&= 1-\frac{0.41^2}{2.5^2}\\
&\approx 0.973
\end{align*}
This is apparently not the correct answer, and I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. We obviously want the deviation from the mean to be less than 2.5; otherwise ##|T-\mu|## would produce a value that is below 5.

You are given ##\sigma^2 = 0.41##. But later on, you write ##0.41^2## at the end of your computation. There is no need for that square.
 
mfb said:
Chebyshev's inequality makes a statement about larger deviations. You can use it for P(|T-7.5|>2.5) but not for P(|T-7.5|<2.5).

So what I could do is calculate ##P(T<5)## and go from there?

\begin{align*}
P(T<5)
&\leq P(T<5 \text{ and } T>10)\\
&= P(|T-\mu| >= 2.5)\\
&\leq \frac{\sigma^2}{2.5^2}\\
&=\frac{0.41^2}{2.5^2}\\
&= 0.026896
\end{align*}
But then I'm stuck with the shaded area shaded blue in this picture:
S3_4.png

and I need the one in the middle. At least that's my understanding.
 
micromass said:
You are given ##\sigma^2 = 0.41##. But later on, you write ##0.41^2## at the end of your computation. There is no need for that square.

Oh. My. Gauss!

Thank you. How typical of me...
 

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