Prove Lower Integral <= 0 <= Upper Integral

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The discussion centers on proving that for a bounded function f:[a, b] -> R, where f(x) = 0 for all rational x in [a, b], it holds that Lower Integral <= 0 <= Upper Integral. The proof establishes that both the lower and upper integrals, L(f, p) and U(f, P), equal 0, confirming the inequalities. The participants clarify that despite the function's discontinuity, the presence of rational numbers in any interval ensures that the minimum value of f(x) is less than or equal to 0 and the maximum is greater than or equal to 0.

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Suppose f:[a, b]-> R is bounded function
f(x)=0 for each rational number x in [a, b]
Prove Lower Integral <= 0 <= Upper Integral

Proof:
f(x) = 0 when x is rational
both L(f, p) = U(f, P) = 0
and L(f, p) <= Lower Integral <= Upper Integral <= U(f, p)

This function seems like discontinous even though there aren't any information of functional value when x is NOT rational. It looks like that the Intermediate Value Theorem or Mean Value Theorem need to be appplied.

So I have to prove that the Lower Integral <=0, and the Upper Integral >=0. So the function itself has to cross f(x)=0 isn't it?

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
 
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There's no IVT if the function isn't continuous. The point is that every interval of nonzero size contains a rational number. So the min of f(x) on the interval MUST be <=0 and the max of f(x) on the interval is >=0. It's a lot less complicated than you think it is.
 
Oh, I see. Thanks!
 

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