Prove Sum of Converging Sequences = L+M, Counter Example

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The discussion revolves around proving that the sum of two converging sequences, \( a_n \) and \( b_n \), which converge to limits \( L \) and \( M \) respectively, also converges to \( L + M \). Additionally, a counterexample is sought to demonstrate that the sum of two divergent sequences may not necessarily be divergent.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the triangle inequality and the epsilon argument to establish convergence. Questions arise regarding the initial steps taken and the need to clarify the conditions under which the sequences converge.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering suggestions for modifying the approach and clarifying the use of epsilon arguments. There is a focus on ensuring that the sequences are appropriately bounded within their respective neighborhoods of convergence.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the rearrangement of terms and the selection of integers that satisfy the convergence conditions. The need for clear definitions and distinctions between the sequences is highlighted.

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Homework Statement


Prove that if two sequences an and bn converge to L and M respectively, then the sum of the sequences converge to L+M.
Present a counter example to show the sum of two divergent sequences need not be divergent.

The Attempt at a Solution


We have an -> L and bn -> M we want an + bn -> L+M.

So I have |an - L | < Ε for every n > N
and |bn - L | Ε every n > N

What is my next step?

thank you
 
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Use the triangle inequality and an epsilon/2 argument.
 
Is my starting point totally off?
 
No, it is quite good. But you may want to modify what you have in order to distinguise the n's for which a_n and b_n can be made smaller than epsilon. It would also be useful to put a_n and b_n in the epsilon/2 neighbourhood of L and M. You will see why later.

|a_n+ b_n -(L+M)|=|a_n-L + b_n -M|

Use the triangle inequality on the above and then select your n_0 and then use the modified part that you already have.
 
How can i make an and bn with the E/2 argument, don't understand that part. I know we are trying to prove that statement.
 
As ╔(σ_σ)╝ noted, it's only a point of rearranging terms, making use of the triangle inequality and chosing some ε > 0, and some ε/2 > 0. I.e. if an and bn coverge, then for ε/2 (whatever ε is) there exist some positive integers N1 and N2 such that |an - L| < ε/2 whenever N >= N1 and |bn - M| < ε/2 whenever N >= N2. For which integers will both inequalities be satisfied?
 
maximum of n1 n2?
 
Yes :-).

Show us what you have done.
 

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