Prove that a sequence which is bounded above cannot tend to infinity

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The discussion revolves around proving that a sequence which is bounded above cannot tend to infinity. Participants are exploring definitions and attempting to construct a proof by contradiction. Additionally, a specific sequence, B(n) = cos(n^2 + 7), is mentioned in relation to the broader question of bounded sequences and their behavior as they approach infinity.

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  • Participants are attempting to use proof by contradiction, questioning the implications of assuming a sequence tends to infinity while being bounded above. There is also discussion about the definition of terms such as C and the conditions under which a sequence is said to tend to infinity.

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There is an active exploration of the definitions and implications of bounded sequences. Some participants are providing feedback on the clarity of statements made regarding the proof, while others are questioning the assumptions and definitions being used. The conversation indicates a lack of consensus on the correct application of definitions and the logical structure of the proof.

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Participants are grappling with the definitions of sequences and the conditions for convergence. There is mention of notes that may contain definitions, suggesting that participants are referencing external materials to clarify their understanding.

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question 1 : Prove that a sequence which is bounded above cannot tend to infinity
What i did was state the definition ... but I'm trying to proof by contradiction. So i first suppose that a(n) tends to infinity , then a(n) > C . But since it is bounded above , C < or = to U , where U is the upper bound .
This is where i got stuck. Any ideas ?

question 2 : I am required to prove the this sequence does not tend to infinity
B(n) = cos(n^2 + 7)
how am i suppose to do this ?
 
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garyljc said:
question 1 : Prove that a sequence which is bounded above cannot tend to infinity
What i did was state the definition ... but I'm trying to proof by contradiction. So i first suppose that a(n) tends to infinity , then a(n) > C . But since it is bounded above , C < or = to U , where U is the upper bound .
This is where i got stuck. Any ideas ?
Saying "a(n)> C" makes no sense until you have said what C is!

question 2 : I am required to prove the this sequence does not tend to infinity
B(n) = cos(n^2 + 7)
how am i suppose to do this ?
Well, just a random guess, but since you were just asked to prove that "if a sequence is bounded above is cannot tend to infinity", how about finding an upper bound for cos(n2+ 7)?:rolleyes: There's an obvious one.
 


i got question 2
does is this statement true : that for any bounded sequence, it cannot tend to infinity ?

for question 1 , a sequence tend to infinity for every C>0 , there exist a nat no. N such that a(n) > C whenever n>N
what do you mean i have not said what is C ?
isn't c just a number ?
 


garyljc said:
i got question 2
does is this statement true : that for any bounded sequence, it cannot tend to infinity ?
That is exactly what you were asked to prove in question 1!

for question 1 , a sequence tend to infinity for every C>0 , there exist a nat no. N such that a(n) > C whenever n>N
what do you mean i have not said what is C ?
isn't c just a number ?
You statement here, "a sequence tends to infinity for every C> 0" makes no sense (the sequence does not depend on any C) and that is NOT what you said in your first post: "Prove that a sequence which is bounded above cannot tend to infinity"- there is no "C" in that.

My point about not saying what C was is that you said earlier: "So i first suppose that a(n) tends to infinity , then a(n) > C" and THAT makes no sense because you haven't said what C is. You did not say, for example that C was a number. Even if you did say "C is a number" you still wouldn't have proven it. Yes, you must have [itex]C\le U[/itex], but if C were, for example, 2, it might be that the upperbound on {a(n)} was 3! What you meant to say, and should say, is that if {a(n)} "tends to infinity", then for C any number, there exist N such that a(N)> C. If the upperbound on {a(n)} is U, take C= U+ 1. Then what do you have?
 


but it reads here from my notes that the definition is stated as i said ... could i then have a correct definition of a sequence that tends to infinity ?
 


What you wrote, and what I was objecting to was:
" a sequence tend to infinity for every C>0 "
which should be " a sequence tend to infinity IF for every C>0".
 

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