Prove that V is a subspace of R4

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The discussion revolves around proving that a set V is a subspace of R4. The participants are examining the necessary conditions for V to qualify as a subspace, particularly focusing on closure under addition and scalar multiplication.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the requirement for V to contain the zero vector and question how to demonstrate closure under addition and scalar multiplication. There is a focus on proving that if x and y are in V, then both x + y and kx (for any scalar k) must also be in V.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the necessary steps to prove closure properties, while others are questioning the role of the zero vector in the context of the proof. Multiple interpretations of how to approach the proof are being explored.

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Participants note that the set V consists of vectors x in R4 such that Ax = 0, and emphasize the need to verify closure for both addition and scalar multiplication. There is an implicit understanding that the proof must adhere to specific mathematical properties without providing a complete solution.

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Homework Statement


Prove that V is a subspace of R4

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- S contains a zero element
- for any x in V and y in V, x + y is in V
- for any x in V and scalar k, kx is in V

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Its obvious that V is a subset of R4. And I know I must prove that is it contains zero vector which is obvious. But how to I prove its closure, I can see that it is by looking but how exactly do I denote it?
 

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If x and y are in V, that means that Ax=0 and Ay=0. Can you prove that A(x+y)=0? And can you prove that A(tx)=0 for every t a scalar? To prove that V is a subspace you need to prove that for every x,y in V, x+y and tx are also in V, which is precisely what the above shows
 
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If x and y are in V, that means that Ax=0 and Ay=0. Can you prove that A(x+y)=0? And can you prove that A(tx)=0 for every t a scalar? To prove that V is a subspace you need to prove that for every x,y in V, x+y and tx are also in V, which is precisely what the above shows

So do these using the 0 vector?
 
Where does the 0 vector come in here? You're supposed to be looking at x and y any vectors in V. So the only property you can use about them is that Ax and Ay are both 0
 
Your set V is all the vectors x in R4 such that Ax = 0. Clearly A0 = 0, but there are other vectors in V, and you need to check that addition is closed for these vectors and scalar multiplication is closed also.
 

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