Prove the limit exist (Partial Differential)

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around determining the existence of a limit involving a multivariable function as it approaches the origin. The limit in question is of the form lim [sin(x^2+y^2+z^2)] / (x^2+y^2+z^2)^(1/2) as (x,y,z) approaches (0,0,0).

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore various methods to evaluate the limit, including applying L'Hôpital's rule and changing to spherical coordinates. There are discussions about the implications of considering the limit from different directions and the potential need for careful differentiation.

Discussion Status

Several participants have provided insights into the limit evaluation process, with some confirming the validity of approaches while others raise points about the need for caution in differentiation. There is an ongoing exploration of alternative methods, but no explicit consensus has been reached regarding the final outcome.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of considering the limit as t approaches 0 from the positive side and discuss the implications of variable changes on the limit evaluation.

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Homework Statement


Hi everyone this is my first time here - I'm completely confused not so I thought I may as well ask complete stangers for help!

the question is..
Determine whether the following limit exists. If so, find its value.

lim [sin(x^2+y^2+z^2)] / (x^2+y^2+z^2)^1/2
x,y,z-->(0,0,0)


Homework Equations


sin x/x = 1

The Attempt at a Solution


ok this is my idea..
if i let t=x^2+y^2+z^2, the limit should be like..

lim (sin t) / (t^1/2)

apply L'Hospital rule,

(cos t) / (t^-1/2) = t^1/2 cos t

am i right?

t=0.. so...

(cos t) / (t^-1/2) = t^1/2 cos t
= 0^1/2 cos 0
= 0
ok.. how am i going to proceed?
 
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first be a little careful, if you let t=x^2+y^2+z^2, then you are only looking at the limit form t->0+

that said i think your approach is valid, though you have missed a factor of -2 in your L'Hop differentiation, but you still get the limit is zero...

to see what is going on, if you let r = (x^2+y^2+z^2)^(1/2), you are essentially changing to spherical co-ordinates, where the limit is independent of theta or phi
[tex]\lim{r \to 0^+} \frac{sin(r^2)}{r}[/tex]

as another method, how about multiplying through by r/r then considering the limit ?
 
hurmm.. ok..
so.. wut bout limit for 0-?
 
i was just trying to clarify for your variable change you only consider t->0+, so you don't have to worry about 0-. Its not hugely important here, just something to be aware of
 
ic...
ok... let me refresh back my calculation...

lim ...[sin(x^2+y^2+z^2)] / (x^2+y^2+z^2)^1/2
x,y,z-->(0,0,0)

apply L'hospital rule..
so.. i need to differentiate nominator, f(x) and denominator, g(x)
let r = (x^2+y^2+z^2)^(1/2)
so.. i shall have sin r^2/r

then, (2r cos r^2)/1

substitute limit r=0
i'll get 2(0) cos 0
then the answer is 0..
so.. the limit is exist and the value is 0..

can u please help to confirm my answer lanedance..
 
can we apply a conjugate into this question?

the answer will be:
you'll get the sin x/x = 1 thingy.

then your answer will be left with:
lim....(x^2 + y^2 + z^2)^(1/2)
(x,y,z)->(0,0,0)

and yada, yada, yada...
 
damn bro/sis
hahahhaa
r u one of mmu's cyberjaya student?
u got the answer for other question?
damn what a coincidence
 
HallsofIvy said:
As you say, with [itex]u= x^2+ y^2+ z^2[/itex],
[tex]\frac{sin(x^2+y^2+ z^2)}{(x^2+ y^2+ z^2)^{1/2}}= \frac{sin(u^2)}{u}[/tex]
Multiply both numerator and denominator by u to write that as
[tex]u\frac{sin(u^2)}{u^2}[/tex]
and now use [itex]sin(\theta)/\theta[/itex].

how about the other questions?
 

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