Prove this is not a preadditive category?

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The discussion revolves around demonstrating that the category of open sets in R² with continuous maps as morphisms is not preadditive. Participants are tasked with finding examples that illustrate the properties of hom-sets in this context.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants explore the nature of hom-sets and question the existence of a zero element within them. There is discussion about the composition of functions and the conditions under which they can be commutative. Attempts are made to identify specific open sets and functions to illustrate the problem.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants raising questions about the definitions and properties of functions within the hom-sets. Some guidance is offered regarding the zero function and its implications, but no consensus has been reached on specific examples or conclusions.

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Participants are grappling with the definitions of morphisms and the requirements for hom-sets to form abelian groups. There is uncertainty regarding the conditions for function composition and the implications of the zero function in this category.

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Homework Statement



Produce an example in the category in which objects are open sets in R2 and morphisms are continuous maps, to illustrate that Hom sets need not be abelian groups in this category.

The Attempt at a Solution



I'm missing something stupid here. I'd think that I was looking for two open sets A,B in R2 such that, for some f,g in Hom(A,B), fg != gf. No? I have no clue what the group operation is supposed to be.
 
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Well, the hom-sets in a pre-additive categiry must be abelian groups. So, the should have a zero element. What could that zero element be?? Can there exist one??

Note that for the zero element holds that

[tex]f\circ 0=0=0\circ f[/tex]
 
micromass said:
[tex]f\circ 0=0=0\circ f[/tex]

How can you compose two functions from the same hom-set? Am I missing something that requires the domain and codomain to be equal?
 
honestrosewater said:
How can you compose two functions from the same hom-set? Am I missing something that requires the domain and codomain to be equal?

Let's work in the hom-set Hom(A,A) for now.

In fact, let's take A=]0,1[ and see what that gives us.
 
The zero function z sends all points to the same point, say, r? So composition is only commutative if every other function also sends r to r? I feel totally lost. But then z(a) = 1/2 and f(a) = x/2 would work as examples for your A?
 
The zero function does not necessarily send every function to the same point. g is a zero function if gf=g=fg.

Now, let A=]0,1[ and let [itex]f(x)=x^2[/itex]. What possibilities do we have for g?
 
None?
 

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