How Can Opposite Vectors Prove |\vec{a}| + |\vec{b}| Equals |\vec{a} - \vec{b}|?

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To demonstrate that |\vec{a}| + |\vec{b}| = |\vec{a} - \vec{b}| for vectors \vec{a} and \vec{b} in opposite directions, one can start with the equation |\vec{a}-\vec{b}| = \sqrt{\vec{a}^{2}-2\vec{a}\bullet\vec{b}+\vec{b}^{2}}. Given that the cosine of the angle between them is -1, this simplifies to |\vec{a}-\vec{b}| = \sqrt{|\vec{a}|^2 + |\vec{b}|^2 + 2|\vec{a}||\vec{b}|}. The relationship between the vectors leads to the conclusion that |\vec{a}| + |\vec{b}| equals the magnitude of their difference. Notation issues regarding vector operations and magnitudes were discussed, emphasizing the importance of clarity in mathematical expressions. Understanding these concepts allows for a clearer proof of the relationship between the magnitudes of opposite vectors.
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Homework Statement


if vectors \vec{a} and \vec{b} have opposite directions, how to show that |\vec{a}| + |\vec{b}| = |\vec{a} - \vec{b}|?

Homework Equations


quadratic equation, definition of absolute value

The Attempt at a Solution


|\vec{a}-\vec{b}| = \sqrt{\vec{a}^{2}-2\vec{a}\bullet\vec{b}+\vec{b}^{2}}
and then I got
|\vec{a}-\vec{b}| = \sqrt{\vec{a}^{2}-2|\vec{a}||\vec{b}|cos\Phi+\vec{b}^{2}}
So then cosine of the angle is equal to -1, and I don't know how to go from there.
 
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Looks like a notation issue.

<br /> \begin{align}<br /> \vec{a}^2 &amp;= a^2\notag\\<br /> <br /> |\vec{a}|&amp;=a\notag<br /> \end{align}<br />

Everything under the radical is a scalar.
 
bigplanet401 said:
Looks like a notation issue.

<br /> \begin{align}<br /> \vec{a}^2 &amp;= a^2\notag\\<br /> <br /> |\vec{a}|&amp;=a\notag<br /> \end{align}<br />

Everything under the radical is a scalar.

This makes no sense. In the first equation you have the square of a vector, which implies multiplication of some kind. The only kinds of multiplication that are available are 1) multiplication by a scalar, 2) the dot product, and 3) (for vectors in R^3) the cross product.

In the second equation, you claim that the magnitude of a vector is equal to the vector itself.
 
BioBabe91 said:

Homework Statement


if vectors \vec{a} and \vec{b} have opposite directions, how to show that |\vec{a}| + |\vec{b}| = |\vec{a} - \vec{b}|?


Homework Equations


quadratic equation, definition of absolute value


The Attempt at a Solution


|\vec{a}-\vec{b}| = \sqrt{\vec{a}^{2}-2\vec{a}\bullet\vec{b}+\vec{b}^{2}}
and then I got
|\vec{a}-\vec{b}| = \sqrt{\vec{a}^{2}-2|\vec{a}||\vec{b}|cos\Phi+\vec{b}^{2}}
So then cosine of the angle is equal to -1, and I don't know how to go from there.

You're given that the vectors have the opposite directions, which means that a = -kb for some positive scalar k. Also, since a.b = |a||b|cos(theta), and theta = pi, you have a.b = -|a||b|.

Put both of these ideas together, and the result you want should fall out pretty readily.
 
This makes no sense. In the first equation you have the square of a vector, which implies multiplication of some kind. The only kinds of multiplication that are available are 1) multiplication by a scalar, 2) the dot product, and 3) (for vectors in R^3) the cross product.

In the second equation, you claim that the magnitude of a vector is equal to the vector itself.

Again, I think it's a notation issue. You'll often see shorthands like this in the literature. Since you're using boldface:
<br /> \begin{align}<br /> \mathbf{a}^2 &amp;= \mathbf{a} \cdot \mathbf{a} = a^2 = |\mathbf{a}|^2<br /> \intertext{and}<br /> |\mathbf{a}| &amp;= a.<br /> \end{align}<br />

I can see where there might be problems, if instead we did something like
<br /> \mathbf{a}^2 = \mathbf{aa} = \mathbf{a} \otimes \mathbf{a}<br />
and instead ended up with a dyadic (an outer product).

Notice that the arrows are missing on the RHS of each equation in my previous post.
 
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