Proving a sequence has a lower bound

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The discussion revolves around proving that the sequence defined by the recurrence relation ##\frac{1}{2}(x_n + \frac{2}{x_n})= x_{n+1}##, with an initial value of ##x_1 = 1##, is bounded below by ##\sqrt{2}##. Participants are also tasked with demonstrating that the sequence is non-increasing and converges to ##\sqrt{2}##.

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  • Some participants explore graphical representations to understand the behavior of the sequence, while others suggest algebraic methods, including induction and limit properties. There is discussion on how to establish that the sequence remains above ##\sqrt{2}## and the implications of the sequence being monotonic.

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The conversation is ongoing, with various participants offering different approaches to the problem. Some have suggested using induction to prove the lower bound, while others are considering the implications of the sequence being monotonic and bounded. There is no explicit consensus yet on the best method to proceed.

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Participants note that the initial term ##x_1 = 1## is less than ##\sqrt{2}##, which raises questions about the validity of the lower bound for all terms in the sequence starting from ##n \geq 2##. There is also mention of the arithmetic-geometric inequality as a potential tool for analysis.

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Homework Statement


Given the sequence ##\frac{1}{2}(x_n + \frac{2}{x_n})= x_{n+1}##, where ##x_1 =1##:

Prove that ##x_n## is never less than ##\sqrt{2}##, then use this to prove that ##x_n - x_{n+1} \ge 0## and conclude ##\lim x_n = \sqrt{2}##.

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Graphing the equation ##\frac{1}{2}(x_n + \frac{2}{x_n})= y##, it's easy to see that that it is greater than ##\sqrt{2}## for all positive values of ##x##. I'm just not sure how to do this algebraically.

Even if we take it that the lowest bound is ##\sqrt{2}##, we can do $$x_n - x_{n+1} = x_n - \frac{x_n}{2}-\frac{1}{x_n} = \frac{x_n}{2} - \frac{1}{x_n} \ge 0$$ and if the minimum ##x_n = \sqrt{2}##, we can see that it will always be ##\ge 0##. I'm not sure how to do this without hand-waiving the first part, and I also don't know how to get from this to finding the limit of the sequence.
 
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To find the limit is easy, if the limit exists then ##\lim{x_n}=\lim{x_{n+1}}=L## , use that and take the limit on both sides of the defining recurrence equation to make (using of the properties of limit for addition and division) a quadratic equation for L that is ##\frac{1}{2}(L+\frac{2}{L})=L##.

To prove that all the terms (except the first) are bigger than ##\sqrt2## maybe induction on n could work.
 
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Homework Statement


Given the sequence ##\frac{1}{2}(x_n + \frac{2}{x_n})= x_{n+1}##, where ##x_1 =1##:

Prove that ##x_n## is never less than ##\sqrt{2}##, then use this to prove that ##x_n - x_{n+1} \ge 0## and conclude ##\lim x_n = \sqrt{2}##.

Presumably this is for n \geq 2, since x_1 = 1 < \sqrt{2}.

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The Attempt at a Solution


Graphing the equation ##\frac{1}{2}(x_n + \frac{2}{x_n})= y##, it's easy to see that that it is greater than ##\sqrt{2}## for all positive values of ##x##. I'm just not sure how to do this algebraically.

Show that x_{n+1}^2 = 2 + \frac{(x_n^2 - 2)^2}{4x_n^2}.

Even if we take it that the lowest bound is ##\sqrt{2}##, we can do $$x_n - x_{n+1} = x_n - \frac{x_n}{2}-\frac{1}{x_n} = \frac{x_n}{2} - \frac{1}{x_n} \ge 0$$ and if the minimum ##x_n = \sqrt{2}##, we can see that it will always be ##\ge 0##. I'm not sure how to do this without hand-waiving the first part, and I also don't know how to get from this to finding the limit of the sequence.

The condition x_n - x_{n+1} \geq 0 is saying that the sequence is monotonic decreasing. A sequence which is monotonic decreasing and bounded below converges.
 
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Z90E532 said:

Homework Statement


Given the sequence ##\frac{1}{2}(x_n + \frac{2}{x_n})= x_{n+1}##, where ##x_1 =1##:

Prove that ##x_n## is never less than ##\sqrt{2}##, then use this to prove that ##x_n - x_{n+1} \ge 0## and conclude ##\lim x_n = \sqrt{2}##.

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The Attempt at a Solution


Graphing the equation ##\frac{1}{2}(x_n + \frac{2}{x_n})= y##, it's easy to see that that it is greater than ##\sqrt{2}## for all positive values of ##x##. I'm just not sure how to do this algebraically.

Even if we take it that the lowest bound is ##\sqrt{2}##, we can do $$x_n - x_{n+1} = x_n - \frac{x_n}{2}-\frac{1}{x_n} = \frac{x_n}{2} - \frac{1}{x_n} \ge 0$$ and if the minimum ##x_n = \sqrt{2}##, we can see that it will always be ##\ge 0##. I'm not sure how to do this without hand-waiving the first part, and I also don't know how to get from this to finding the limit of the sequence.

Look at the arithmetic-geometric inequality; see
http://jwilson.coe.uga.edu/emt725/AMGM/AMGM.html
 

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