Proving Commutator Identity for Baker-Campbell-Hausdorff Formula

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The discussion revolves around proving the commutator identity used in the Baker-Campbell-Hausdorff (BCH) formula, specifically the identity $$[e^{tT},S] = -t[S,T]e^{tT}$$ under the assumption that the commutator [S,T] commutes with both S and T, which are linear operators. Participants explore the mathematical reasoning and implications of this identity.

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  • One participant expresses difficulty in proving the identity and seeks assistance, noting that they have tried comparing terms without success.
  • Another participant presents a derivation involving the adjoint representation and claims that the identity follows from the properties of the adjoint operator, specifically that $$\left(\exp(\operatorname{ad}(tT))- 1\right)(S)= \operatorname{ad}(tT)(S)$$ under certain conditions.
  • A participant questions their understanding of the adjoint representation and seeks clarification on the derivation, particularly regarding the step involving $$\exp(tT)S\exp(-tT) - S = \operatorname{ad}(tT)(S)$$ and the implications of the condition that $$\left( \operatorname{ad}(T) \right)^n(S)=0$$ for n>1.
  • Another participant elaborates on the adjoint representation and its relationship with the exponential function, explaining how it relates to the identity in question, but acknowledges the complexity of the topic.
  • A later reply appreciates the detailed explanations provided but reflects on their own understanding of the material, indicating that they found the discussion enlightening yet complex.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding and comfort with the concepts involved, particularly the adjoint representation. There is no clear consensus on the proof of the identity, as some participants seek clarification while others provide different perspectives on the derivation.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss the assumptions required for the identity to hold, including the commutation relations and the behavior of the adjoint operator. The discussion highlights the complexity of the mathematical framework involved in the BCH formula.

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I'm having a little trouble proving the following identity that is used in the derivation of the Baker-Campbell-Hausdorff Formula: $$[e^{tT},S] = -t[S,T]e^{tT}$$ It is assumed that [S,T] commutes with S and T, these being linear operators. I tried opening both sides and comparing terms to no avail, I feel like I'm missing something really dumb here. Can someone give me a hand?
 
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##\left(\exp(\operatorname{ad}(tT))- 1\right)(S)= \operatorname{ad}(tT)(S)## which is true, if ##\left( \operatorname{ad}(T) \right)^n(S)=0\, , \, n>1\,.##
This follows from ##[[S,T],X]=0\, , \,X\in \{\,S,T\,\}##. Hence we have
$$
\left(\exp(\operatorname{ad}(tT))- 1\right)(S)=\operatorname{Ad}(\exp(tT))(S) -S = \exp(tT)S\exp(-tT) - S = \operatorname{ad}(tT)(S) = tTS-tST
$$
and thus
$$
\exp(tT)S -S \exp(tT) = [\exp(tT),S] =[e^{tT},S] = [tT,S]\exp(tT)=-t[S,T]\exp(tT) = -t[S,T]e^{tT}
$$
 
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Sorry, I'm not that comfortable with the adjoint representation yet. Let me start by seeing if I understand the first condition, if we set n=2 for instance:
$$\left( \operatorname{ad}(T) \right)^2(S) = \operatorname{ad}(T)(\operatorname{ad}(T)(S) ) = \operatorname{ad}(T)([T,S]) = [T, [T,S]] = 0$$ It's zero by the assumption, and I'm guessing the more general condition follows from induction? I don't see how to use it to prove the identity though, in particular I don't get this step: $$ \exp(tT)S\exp(-tT) - S = \operatorname{ad}(tT)(S) $$ Could you clarify things a bit? Thanks in advance.
 
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Sorry, I'm not that comfortable with the adjoint representation yet. Let me start by seeing if I understand the first condition, if we set n=2 for instance:
$$\left( \operatorname{ad}(T) \right)^2(S) = \operatorname{ad}(T)(\operatorname{ad}(T)(S) ) = \operatorname{ad}(T)([T,S]) = [T, [T,S]] = 0$$ It's zero by the assumption, and I'm guessing the more general condition follows from induction?
In this case we don't need induction, it is clear right away. ##(\operatorname{ad}T)^n(S)=\underbrace{[T,[T,[\ldots,[T}_{n\text{ times }},S]\ldots ]=0## since already the most inner expression ##[T,[T,S]]=0## and applying more linear transformations cannot change this. We only need at least two applications, i.e. ##n\geq 2\,.##
I don't see how to use it to prove the identity though, in particular I don't get this step: $$ \exp(tT)S\exp(-tT) - S = \operatorname{ad}(tT)(S) $$ Could you clarify things a bit? Thanks in advance.
Prior to BCH it is usually proven, that ##\operatorname{Ad}\circ \exp = \exp\circ \operatorname{ad}##, i.e. ##((\operatorname{Ad}\circ \exp)(tT))(S) = ((\exp\circ \operatorname{ad})(tT))(S)\,.## The exponential function plays the role of integration in the sense, that it maps tangent vectors ##tT \in \mathfrak{g}## of the Lie algebra into the Lie group ##g:=\exp(tT)=e^{tT} \in G##. Moreover the adjoint representation ##\operatorname{Ad}## of the Lie group on its Lie algebra acts by conjugation, as it comes from the inner automorphisms of the group. This means ##(\operatorname{Ad}(g))(S)=gSg^{-1}\,.## Hence

\begin{align*}
\exp(tT) S \exp(-tT)&= gSg^{-1}\\ &=(\operatorname{Ad}(g))(S)\\ &=(\operatorname{Ad}(e^{tT}))(S)\\ &= ((\exp\circ \operatorname{ad})(tT))(S)\\
&= \exp(\operatorname{ad}(tT))(S)\\
&= \left( \sum_{n=0}^\infty \dfrac{1}{n!}(\operatorname{ad}(tT))^n \right)(S)\\
&= \sum_{n=0}^\infty \dfrac{1}{n!}\left( (\operatorname{ad}(tT))^n (S) \right)\\
&= 1(S) + (\operatorname{ad}(tT))(S) + \sum_{n=2}^\infty \dfrac{1}{n!}\underbrace{\left( (\operatorname{ad}(tT))^n (S) \right)}_{= 0}\\
&= S + (\operatorname{ad}(tT))(S)\\
&= S + [tT,S]
\end{align*}

If you want to read it a bit more detailed, however, still rough due to format, you might want to have a look on:
https://www.physicsforums.com/insights/lie-algebras-a-walkthrough-the-representations/
 
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I've read your series of articles, really well written I must say. It amazes me how vast this area is, I thought I knew enough Lie theory after reading Tapp, Stillwell and a few mathematical physics books here and there, but your articles are full of theorems and formalism I never heard of. That being said, you didn't need to go into such detail in your reply, it just didn't occur to me to do an expansion right there. Silly me, thanks a bunch for your help!
 

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