Proving Compactness of Hilbert-Schmidt Operators in a Seperable Hilbert Space

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The discussion revolves around proving the compactness of Hilbert-Schmidt operators in the context of separable Hilbert spaces. The original poster seeks guidance on demonstrating that a linear operator T is compact given the condition involving an orthonormal basis and the summation of the norms of T applied to the basis elements.

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  • Participants discuss various methods to prove the compactness of T, including showing that T can be approximated by finite-rank operators. There is also a focus on the independence of the Hilbert-Schmidt norm from the choice of orthonormal basis, with attempts to manipulate inner products and series.

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Some participants have offered hints and suggestions for approaching the problem, particularly regarding the convergence in operator norm and the properties of the trace. The discussion reflects a mix of interpretations and attempts to clarify the concepts involved, with no explicit consensus reached.

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There are indications of constraints related to the definitions of trace and the properties of operators in Hilbert spaces, as well as the original poster's upcoming exams, which may influence the urgency and focus of the discussion.

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Hi there,

Can anyone give me an hint/idea of how to prove Hilbert-Schmidt operators are compact? More specifically, if X is a seperable Hilbert space and T:X->X is a linear operator such that there exists an orthonormal basis (e_{n}) such that \sum_{n} ||T(e_{n})||^{2}<\infty then show that T is compact.

It looks like an easy exercise given that both definitions are given in terms of sequences but I'm being quite stupid so I'm having trouble.

Thanks for any help.
 
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There is more than one way you can do this; perhaps the easiest is to show that T is a limit of finite ranks. Can you think of suitable ones?
 
Thanks for the help - sounds good. Obviously I'd have to show they converge in operator norm. Trying your hint now!
 
Done it - thanks so much for the hint :)

I have my functional analysis exam next Saturday (after complex analysis and manifolds on Monday and Friday) so I might post a few more questions some time if I have more trouble.

Enjoy your weekend.
 
Good luck!
 
Thanks!

Could anyone give me a hint as to how to prove the Hilbert-Schmidt norm,

||T||_{HS}=(\sum_{n\geq 1}||Te_{n}||^{2})^{1/2}

is independent of the choice of orthonormal basis.

I've tried taking another orthonormal basis w_{n}, writing e_{n}=\sum_{k=1}^{\infty}(w_{k},e_{n})w_{k} so that Te_{n}=\sum_{k=1}^{\infty}(w_{k},e_{n})Tw_{k} and considering ||Te_{n}||^2 but only got that this is less than or equal to \sum_{k=1}^{\infty}||Tw_{k}||^2 which is obviously not helpful. Clearly I've applied too many inequalities (triangle inequality and cauchy-schwarz).

Anyone have a better approach?

Thanks for any help.
 
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The Hilbert-Schmidt norm can be written as sqrt(trace(A.A*)) (where * is hermitian conjugate). Does that help you to prove it's basis independent?
 
I don't think this will solve the problem fully, because the usual definition of "trace" for an arbitrary operator on a (separable) Hilbert space will call out an o.n. bases and thus we're going to have to prove that this new value is independent of this choice of basis, see here. [GSpeight: consider this an extra exercise!]

Alternatively, we can modify post #6 slightly: instead of writing
e_{n}=\sum_{k=1}^{\infty}(e_{n},w_{k})w_{k},
write
Te_{n}=\sum_{k=1}^{\infty}(Te_{n},w_{k})w_{k}.
Try to see if you can take it from here. No inequalities will be needed.
 
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morphism said:
I don't think this will solve the problem fully, because the usual definition of "trace" for an arbitrary operator on a (separable) Hilbert space will call out an o.n. bases and thus we're going to have to prove that this new value is independent of this choice of basis, see here. [GSpeight: consider this an extra exercise!]

Alternatively, we can modify post #6 slightly: instead of writing
e_{n}=\sum_{k=1}^{\infty}(e_{n},w_{k})w_{k},
write
Te_{n}=\sum_{k=1}^{\infty}(Te_{n},w_{k})w_{k}.
Try to see if you can take it from here. No inequalities will be needed.

You can't prove trace is basis independent in the usual 'cyclic property of the trace' way??
 
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Sorry for the slow reply. I've been busy revising a different topic and haven't really encountered the generalisation of trace to operators on Hilbert spaces.

Firstly sorry if my order of writing terms in the inner product was confusing - for some reason my lecturer prefers the inner product to be linear in the second argument (even though the first time I met inner product spaces and the usual seems to be linear in the first argument).

If we have

Te_{n}=\sum_{k=1}^{\infty}(Te_{n},e_{k})w_{k}

then clearly it follows that

||Te_{n}||^{2}=\sum_{k=1}^{\infty}|(Te_{n},w_{k})|^{2}

but even with adding up all the terms and interchanging the order of summation I don't see where factors ||Tw_{n}||^2 come from, unless we assume the operator is self adjoint or something.

Thanks for the help so far to both of you.
 
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Think about the properties of the linear transformation that connects the e and w bases. Did you try thinking of it as a trace?
 

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