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The discussion revolves around proving that if a convergent sequence (t_n) has a limit greater than a number x, then there exists a number N such that for all n greater than N, t_n is greater than x. The subject area is real analysis, specifically focusing on sequences and their convergence properties.

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  • Participants explore the implications of the limit of the sequence and its relationship to the number x. There are attempts to articulate the proof using epsilon-delta arguments, with questions about the proper use of epsilon and the conditions under which the sequence terms exceed x.

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Some participants provide guidance on refining the proof structure and emphasize the importance of correctly applying the epsilon definition. Multiple interpretations of the proof strategy are being explored, particularly regarding the relationship between the limit and the sequence terms.

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There are concerns about the correct application of epsilon in the proof, and participants question assumptions about the limit and its implications for the sequence terms. The discussion reflects a learning process with varying levels of understanding among participants.

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Homework Statement


The question asks to prove that if (t_n) is a convergent sequence and suppose that its limit is great than a number x. The prove that it exists a number N such that n>N => t_n>x

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I tried to say that as (t_n) converge, (t_n - x) converges too.
And let lim(t_n - x) = k, for k in R (real).
Then for some e>0, there's a number N s.t. n>N => |(t_n-x)-k|< e
Take e=0, then |(t_n-x)-k|=0 => t_n-k = x,
since lim(t_n)>x then k must be positive => lim(t_n)>x.

can anyone tell me if i am going the wrong way??
I am afraid that my concept somewhere is wrong..
Thanks
 
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Generally speaking, when you write epsilon proofs, it's easier to follow the argument of the proof if you start by specifying what you want \epsilon to be. (Even you worked your way back to it.)

You can't use \epsilon = 0 since that contradicts \epsilon &gt; 0.

You need to be much more careful in the way you write things in general.
 
Then can i rephrase it as follows:
As (t_n) converge, (t_n - x) converges too.
And let lim(t_n - x) = k, for k in R, k>0.
Then for some e>0, there's a number N s.t. n>N => 0<|(t_n-x)-k|< e
|(t_n-x)-k|>0 implies t_n - k>x, since k is positive, it follows that t_n>x.

does this sound right? (it seems like i am ignoring the use of e?)
if not, can you give me some idea on how to make the proof works?
Thanks.
 
If L is the limit and L> x, then L-x> 0. What if you make \epsilon= (L-x)/2?
 
Thanks for replying!
When I have 2 situations, how can i show that when L-tn>0 (L>tn) and L>x actually implies tn>x?? Can you give me some idea?
 
All I can do is repeat: if the limit L> x, then L-x> 0. What happens if you take \epsilon= (L-x)/2?
 
Well, it might also be hand to review the definition of convergent sequence...
 

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