Proving Convergence of Sequences: a_n to a, b_n = 1/n(a_1 + ... + a_n)

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The problem involves a sequence of real numbers \(a_1, a_2, \ldots\) that converges to a limit \(a\), and the task is to prove that the sequence \(b_n = \frac{1}{n}(a_1 + \ldots + a_n)\) also converges to \(a\). The discussion centers around the implications of convergence and the behavior of averages of sequences.

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the convergence of \(a_n\) and the behavior of \(b_n\), questioning how the terms influence the limit. There is exploration of the contributions of the first \(N\) terms to the overall limit and the significance of averaging over a large number of terms.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, raising questions about the contributions of finite terms versus infinite terms in the limit. Some guidance has been offered regarding how to handle the contributions of the first \(N\) terms and the implications of choosing sufficiently large \(m\) in the limit argument.

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There is a focus on the epsilon-delta definition of convergence, and participants are considering how to apply this concept to the average of the sequence. The discussion reflects uncertainty about the role of finite sums in the context of limits.

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Homework Statement
Let a_1, a_2, ... be a sequence of real numbers that converges to a. Let b_n = 1/n(a_1 + ... + a_n). Prove that b_1, b_2, ... also converges to a.


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Let e > 0. We know that there is an N such that |a_n - a| < e for all n > N. Now |nb_n - na| <= |a_1 - a| + ... + |a_n - a|, but I don't see how we can have |a_i - a| < e for i = 1, ..., n. Any tips?
 
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b_m for m>N is (1/m)*(sum(a_i for i=1 to N)+(1/m)*sum(a_i for i=N+1 to m)). The first sum is finite and doesn't depend on m. So it's contribution to the limit is 0.
 
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I don't understand why the contribution to the limit is 0. Does that mean that |a_i - a| < e for all i = 1, ..., N?
 
Not at all. The point is that the contribution of the first N terms, where you don't have a bound, to the limit of the b_i is insignificant. It's only a finite number of terms. For large i>>N, b_i is the average over a huge number of terms.
 
Sorry for being dense. Are you're saying that the first N terms of the series do not contribute to the sum of the series? I wasn't thinking in terms of series. What would be the epsilon-argument?
 
Of course they contribute! But you can make their contribution unimportant by looking at large enough b_m. Look b_m=(A+sum(b_i, for i>N))/m where A is the sum of the first N terms. The sum is m-N numbers all of which are within epsilon of the limit 'a'. What's the limit as m->infinity? You will have to account for A in your limit argument, but you can make A/m as small as you want by picking m large enough.
 
Dick said:
Look b_m=(A+sum(b_i, for i>N))/m where A is the sum of the first N terms.
I think you meant to write a_i instead of b_i and "for N < i <= m" instead of "for i>N".

What's the limit as m->infinity? You will have to account for A in your limit argument, but you can make A/m as small as you want by picking m large enough.
I see know. For some reason, I was thinking that A varied with m. Don't ask me why. Thanks for your help and your patience!
 
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I think you meant to write a_i instead of b_i and "for N < i <= m" instead of "for i>N".


I see know. For some reason, I was thinking that A varied with m. Don't ask me why. Thanks for your help and your patience!

You are right. I guess I got tired of writing the same thing over and over again and stopped checking carefully. Glad you got it.
 

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