Proving Divergence of |cos(n)a_n| w/ Converging Series

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The discussion revolves around the convergence properties of the sequence (a_n) and the series involving the term |cos(n)a_n|. The original poster presents a scenario where (a_n) converges to 0 but diverges overall, and questions the validity of an argument to prove that |cos(n)a_n| does not converge.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the implications of using the Dirichlet Convergence Test and question the boundedness of partial sums for cos(n) and cos(2n). There is also a discussion on the correctness of the original poster's argument regarding the divergence of |cos(n)a_n|.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the convergence tests and questioning the assumptions made about the boundedness of the cosine functions. There is no explicit consensus, but several lines of reasoning are being explored.

Contextual Notes

There is a potential misunderstanding regarding the terms "sequence" and "series," as one participant points out a possible error in terminology. The original poster's setup includes specific conditions on the sequence (a_n) that are under scrutiny.

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Homework Statement


Lets say that I have some sequence (a_n) which converges to 0 at infinity and that for all n a_{n+1} < a_n but the sequence (a_n) diverges. Now I know that the series
(cos(n) a_n) converges but can I use the following argument to prove that
|cos(n) a_n| doesn't converge:
|cos(n) a_n| >= {cos}^{2}(n) a_n = {a_n}/2 + {(cos(2n)) a_n}/2
And since {(cos(2n)) a_n}/2 converges and {a_n}/2 diverges
{cos}^{2}(n) a_n diverges and so |cos(n) a_n| diverges.
Is that always true?
Thanks.
 
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That seems ok, provided you can prove cos(2n)*a_n converges. Are you using Abel-Dedekind-Dirichlet (summation by parts)? I just figured out how it works, so I had to ask.
 
Well I know that cos(n) has bounded partial sums and cos(2n) = 2(cos(n))^2 - 1 so that means that cos(2n) also has bounded partial sums right?
 
daniel_i_l said:
Well I know that cos(n) has bounded partial sums and cos(2n) = 2(cos(n))^2 - 1 so that means that cos(2n) also has bounded partial sums right?

Not at all! cos(n)^2 doesn't have bounded partial sums and neither does 1! How did you show cos(n) had bounded partial sums?? Try and apply the same technique to cos(2n).
 
daniel_i_l said:

Homework Statement


Lets say that I have some sequence (a_n) which converges to 0 at infinity and that for all n a_{n+1} < a_n but the sequence (a_n) diverges.
You mean series rather than that last "sequence", right?
 

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