Proving Perpendicular Vectors with Direction Angles

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around proving a mathematical statement regarding two vectors, \(\vec{u}\) and \(\vec{v}\), which are defined by their direction angles. The original poster presents a problem that requires demonstrating that the sum of products of the cosines of these angles equals zero, indicating the vectors' perpendicularity.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between direction angles and direction cosines, questioning how these relate to the dot product of the vectors. Some express confusion about the implications of the vectors being perpendicular and how that affects the cosine products.

Discussion Status

Several participants are attempting to clarify the definitions and relationships involved in the proof. There is an ongoing exploration of how to express the vectors in terms of their direction cosines and how to apply the dot product to reach the required conclusion. No consensus has been reached, but productive questions and clarifications are being exchanged.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the definitions of direction angles and cosines, with some uncertainty about their roles in the context of the problem. The discussion reflects a mix of assumptions and interpretations that have not yet been fully resolved.

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Hello everyone,

Thank you in advance for your help!

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Homework Statement



10. A vector [itex]\vec{u}[/itex] with direction angles A1, B1, and Y1, is perpendicular to a vector [itex]\vec{v}[/itex] with direction angles A2, B2, and Y2. Prove that:
[itex]\cos A1 \cos B2 + \cos B1 \cos B2 + \cos Y1 \cos Y2 = 0[/itex].

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The Attempt at a Solution



I let [itex]\vec{u} = [a, b, c], \vec{v} = [x, y, z][/itex].

Since these are perpendicular, therefore:

[itex]\vec{u} \bullet \vec{v} = ax + by + cz = 0[/itex].

Also, [itex]a, b, c, x, y, z[/itex] would all correspond to their direction cosines.

However, I do not understand how I can prove the above statement with these facts. For example, would [itex]\cos A1 \cos A2 = 0[/itex] simply because they are the components of two vectors which are parallel to each other?
 
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what is a direction angle? i assume if the vector is length r then a = r.cosA1 etc...?

then just put them in your dot product & you're pretty much there
 
vertciel said:
Hello everyone,

Thank you in advance for your help!

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Homework Statement



10. A vector [itex]\vec{u}[/itex] with direction angles A1, B1, and Y1, is perpendicular to a vector [itex]\vec{v}[/itex] with direction angles A2, B2, and Y2. Prove that:
[itex]\cos A1 \cos B2 + \cos B1 \cos B2 + \cos Y1 \cos Y2 = 0[/itex].

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The Attempt at a Solution



I let [itex]\vec{u} = [a, b, c], \vec{v} = [x, y, z][/itex].

Since these are perpendicular, therefore:

[itex]\vec{u} \bullet \vec{v} = ax + by + cz = 0[/itex].

Also, [itex]a, b, c, x, y, z[/itex] would all correspond to their direction cosines.

However, I do not understand how I can prove the above statement with these facts. For example, would [itex]\cos A1 \cos A2 = 0[/itex] simply because they are the components of two vectors which are parallel to each other?

The whole point of "direction cosines" is that if a vector [itex]\vec{v}[/itex] has direction cosines A1, B1, Y1, (I imagine that in your book those are [itex]\Alpha[/itex], [itex]\Beta[/itex], and [itex]\Gamma[/itex] and that you are told that they are the cosines of the angles the vector makes with the x, y, and z axes, respectively) Then [itex]\vec{v}= A1\vec{i}+ B1\vec{j}+ Y1\vec{k}[/itex]. That makes this problem simple.
 
Thank you for your response.

Would you mind elaborating on the proof?

I thought that the direction cosines themselves were the unit vectors, so how would [itex]\cos A1 \cos A2 = 0[/itex]? Shouldn't the dot product of these direction cosines = 0?
 
Could anyone please offer an explanation for how to prove the above?

Thank you!
 
The direction cosines aren't unit vectors. They are the coefficients of the unit vectors. In terms of the direction angles, u=|u|*(cos(A1)*i+cos(B1)*j+cos(Y1)*k) and v=|v|*(cos(A2)*i+cos(B2)*j+cos(Y2)*k). And, yes, u.v=0. Substitute the expressions for the vectors into the dot product.
 
Thanks for your reply, Dick.

I have:

[tex]\vec{u} = |\vec{u}| \cos A1 \hat{i} + |\vec{u}| \cos B1 \hat{j} + |\vec{u}| \cos Y1 \hat{k}[/tex]

[tex]\vec{v} = |\vec{v}| \cos A2 \hat{i} + |\vec{v}| \cos B2 \hat{j} + |\vec{v}| \cos Y2 \hat{k}[/tex]

If I dot these two expressions on the RS, I do not see how I would get 0 as the final expression.

Could you please explain more?
 
Your are GIVEN that the two vectors are perpendicular. If you dot them you will get an expression involving the cosines and |u| and |v|. You can set that equal to zero because you are GIVEN u.v=0.
 

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