Proving R3=U+V: Solving a+x=b,2a+y=c,3a+z=d

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The discussion revolves around proving that R3 can be expressed as the direct sum of two subspaces U and V, where U is defined by the set of vectors of the form (a, 2a, 3a) and V consists of vectors (x, y, z) that satisfy the equation x + y + z = 0. Participants are exploring the implications of solving a system of equations related to these subspaces.

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  • Participants are attempting to understand what it means to "solve" the equations a + x = b, 2a + y = c, and 3a + z = d in the context of proving R3 = U + V. There is discussion about whether this involves equating b, c, and d to the variables a, x, y, or z.

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Some participants have provided insights into the geometric interpretation of the problem, suggesting that any vector in R3 can be represented as a combination of vectors from U and V. There is an ongoing exploration of how to express a general point in R3 as a sum of vectors from the defined subspaces.

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Participants are navigating the definitions and properties of the subspaces U and V, as well as the implications of the equations that need to be solved. There is an emphasis on understanding the relationship between the components of the vectors and the conditions imposed by the subspaces.

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prove R3=Udirect sum V

u={(a,2a,3a)} aER
v={(x,y,z)} x,y,z ER x+y+z=0

i solved the first bit UnV=0 but I'm having problems with the R3=U+W bit, my notes say i need to be able to "solve" a+x=b,,,2a+y=c,,,3a+z=d but what does this mean? is this simply putting the b,c,d all equal to one of the a,x,y or z?

i have done 6a=b+c+d is this adequate?
 
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franky2727 said:
prove R3=Udirect sum V

u={(a,2a,3a)} aER
v={(x,y,z)} x,y,z ER x+y+z=0

my notes say i need to be able to "solve" a+x=b,,,2a+y=c,,,3a+z=d but what does this mean? is this simply putting the b,c,d all equal to one of the a,x,y or z?

i have done 6a=b+c+d is this adequate?

Hi franky2727! :smile:

I think they mean that, to prove that a general point (b,c,d) in R3 is in U + V, you have to find an (a,2a,3a) in U and an (x,y,z) in V which add to (b,c,d) :wink:
 
It might be helpful to think about the geometry here. The set {a, 2a, 3a} is a line in R3, while the equation x + y + z = 0 is a plane that passes through the origin, and whose normal is the vector (1, 1, 1).

What you're doing is showing that any arbitrary vector in R3 can be written as the sum of a vector along the line plus a vector that extends from the origin out to the plane somewhere.
 
you have to find an (a,2a,3a) in U and an (x,y,z) in V which add to (b,c,d)

well isn't that just a+x=b 2a+y=c 3a+z=d
 
franky2727 said:
you have to find an (a,2a,3a) in U and an (x,y,z) in V which add to (b,c,d)

well isn't that just a+x=b 2a+y=c 3a+z=d

Yup! :biggrin:

… but now you know why! :wink:
 

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