Proving Self-Intersection at (0,0) for x = t cos(t), y = (pi/2 - t) sin(t)

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The discussion centers around proving that the parametric curve defined by x = t cos(t) and y = (π/2 - t) sin(t) has a self-intersection at the point (0,0).

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss finding two values of t for which both x(t) and y(t) equal zero, suggesting that periodicity of the functions may simplify the search for these values.

Discussion Status

Participants have identified potential values of t, specifically 0 and π/2, as candidates for proving the self-intersection. There is a recognition of the periodic nature of the functions involved, and some participants express preferences for certain representations of these values.

Contextual Notes

There is an ongoing exploration of the periodic behavior of the sine and cosine functions, as well as the implications of their values at specific points in relation to the self-intersection claim.

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Homework Statement



Prove that the curve x = t cos(t), y = (pi/2 - t) sin(t) has a self-intersection at the point (0,0)

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not sure where to start with this one. Please help.
 
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Find two t's such that x(t1)=y(t1)=x(t2)=y(t2)=0. Both x(t) and y(t) take periodic visits to 0, so it shouldn't be too hard to find. The construction of x(t) and y(t) give clues as to which values are good to look at first.
 
Okay, so if I'm looking for two t's that both are 0 at x and y, i should be looking at the sin and cos graph where both are 0, correct?

so one good point would be (x1, y1) are 0,0 itself.
and the other point is about 1.571, where both graphs touch this point at the x axis.

are these points okay?

okay what's next!
 
So what values of t are you talking about?
 
0 and 1.571

unless there is something easier you can suggest other than 1.571
 
That will do it. I kinda like pi/2 better than 1.571 though. And since cos(t) and sin(t) are never zero at the same value of t, they are the only two.
 
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