Proving Source, Sink, and Node of a 1st Order DE w/Taylor Series

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This discussion focuses on proving the nature of equilibrium points in a first-order differential equation (DE) using Taylor series expansions. The specific cases analyzed include conditions where the first and second derivatives at the equilibrium point are zero, and the third derivative is either positive or negative. The conclusions drawn are that when f'''(y0) > 0, y0 is a source; when f'''(y0) < 0, y0 is a sink; and when f''(y0) > 0, y0 is classified as a node. The participants emphasize the need for a clear proof of these classifications based on the definitions of source, sink, and node.

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Challenge! Use Taylor series expansions to prove first-order Differential Equation

Suppose dy/dt = f(y) has an equilibrium point at y = y0 and
a) f'(y0) = 0, f''(y0) = 0, and f'''(y0) > 0: Is yo a source, a sink, or a node?
b) f'(y0) = 0, f''(y0) = 0, and f'''(y0) < 0: Is yo a source, a sink, or a node?
b) f'(y0) = 0 and f''(y0) > 0: Is yo a source, a sink, or a node?

Also, prove the answer you pick is true for each part!

I know that the answer for a) is source, b) sink, c) Node but I have no clue how to prove that is true.
Can anyone help me to start the question?
 
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hkus10 said:
Suppose dy/dt = f(y) has an equilibrium point at y = y0 and
a) f'(y0) = 0, f''(y0) = 0, and f'''(y0) > 0: Is yo a source, a sink, or a node?
b) f'(y0) = 0, f''(y0) = 0, and f'''(y0) < 0: Is yo a source, a sink, or a node?
b) f'(y0) = 0 and f''(y0) > 0: Is yo a source, a sink, or a node?

Also, prove the answer you pick is true for each part!

I know that the answer for a) is source, b) sink, c) Node but I have no clue how to prove that is true.
Can anyone help me to start the question?
How does your textbook define these terms: source, sink, node?
 


Let use an example to illustrate source, sink, and node
For example, let assume the equilibrium points are y = -3 and y = 2. dy/dt < 0 fir -3 < y < 2, and dy/dt > 0 for y < -3 and y > 2. Given this information, y = -3 is a sink and y = 2 is a source.

Node just mean if the left hand and the right hand of an equilibrium has the same side of derivative.
 

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