Proving Summation of Consecutive Integers Greater Than 61 on a Circular Disk

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The problem involves proving that some consecutive set of three integers, painted on the rim of a circular disk, must have a sum greater than 61. The integers range from 1 to 40 and are arranged in a random order.

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  • Participants discuss the setup of the problem, with one suggesting to assume that the sum of any three consecutive integers is less than or equal to 61. Others explore the implications of this assumption and how to evaluate the total sum of the integers.

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Several participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering hints and exploring the consequences of their assumptions. There is a productive exchange regarding the evaluation of sums and the implications of the inequality, although no consensus has been reached on a final approach.

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Participants note the challenge of calculating sums without knowing the specific arrangement of integers, and there is an emphasis on understanding the implications of the inequality used in the problem.

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Homework Statement


The integers 1 thru 40 are painted on the outside
rim of a circular disk, in “random” order. Prove that some consecutive
set of three integers must have a sum that is greater than 61. Hint: this
question is not about induction, but about summations of sequences.


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The Attempt at a Solution


I have no idea where to even start on this one.
 
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I'll get you on the way:

Let the elements on the disk be numbered \{x_1,...,x_{40}\}. For conveniece we also put x_{41}=x_1,~x_{42}=x_2,.... Assume that for every i:
x_i+x_{i+1}+x_{i+2}\leq 61

Now try to evaluate the following sum in two ways (one way is the inequality above):

\sum_{i=1}^{40}{x_i+x_{i+1}+x_{i+2}}
 
I don't know how I would calculate that sum though, considering we don't know which integers are next to each other... or would i take the case of the three integers are all at least about 20?... I don't really follow.
 
Ok, another hint:

\sum_{i=1}^{40}{(x_i+x_{i+1}+x_{i+2})}=\sum_{i=1}^{40}{x_i}+\sum_{i=1}^{40}{x_{i+1}}+\sum_{i=1}^{40}{x_{i+2}}

The evaluation of these three sums does not depend on the order of the 40 elements...
 
Thank you, completely missed that, so in this case the individual sums are all equal, and the sum is 820 for each individual sum, so 2460 in total.
 
and I also notice, when I divide this total sum by 40 (the number of possible "i" s, I get 61.5), which is greater than 61)
 
Yes. So now you need to use the inequality x_i+x_{i+1}+x_{i+2}\leq 61 on the sum. This will provide an upper bound of this sum and will hopefully yield a contradiction.
 
so I'm dividing the total by 40, because really I just added up the sum of 120 randomly selected numbers (3 of each number), so by dividing by 40, I get the sum of 3 such randomly selected numbers, and this yields 61.5, which is a contradiction because we assumed it was less than or equal to 61?
 
Yes, that's good to.

The way I saw it was:

2460=\sum_{i=1}^{40}{x_i+x_{i+1}+x_{i+2}}\leq \sum_{i=1}^{40}{61}=40.61=2400

which is a contradiction.
 
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Thank you very much for the help. The only thing is I don't see how you got the 40.61 value?
Thanks again.
 
  • #11
The sum \sum_{i=1}^{40}{61} means (by definition)

(61+61+61+...+61)

where you take the sum 40 times. Thus this equals 40.61.

In general (and I suggest you remember this, as it will come in handy), if you summate a constant, then

\sum_{i=1}^n{c}=c.n
 
  • #12
Oh 40.61 = 40X61. Ok I followed that, I just didn't see how you got 40.61. That clears everything up. Thanks again.
 
  • #13
Ow, I am sorry for the confusion. I should have used other notation :smile:
 

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