Proving Sylow p-Subgroup is Normal in Finite Group

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If a finite group G has precisely one proper Sylow p-subgroup, it is established that this subgroup is normal, indicating that G is not simple. The discussion highlights the relationship between the existence of a proper Sylow p-subgroup and the necessity of another prime divisor q in the order of G. Participants clarify that the presence of the proper Sylow p-subgroup implies the existence of q, as G cannot be simple if it has a normal subgroup. The conversation also addresses the implications of group order, particularly in cases where |G| equals p^2. Overall, the key conclusion is that a single proper Sylow p-subgroup guarantees normality and contradicts the simplicity of G.
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[SOLVED] Sylow p-subgroups

Homework Statement


Let G be a finite group and let primes p and q \neq p divide |G|. Prove that if G has precisely one proper Sylow p-subgroup, it is a normal subgroup, so G is simple.

EDIT: that should say "G is not simple"

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I don't see the point of q. If G has precisely one proper Sylow p-subgroup, then you can conjugate with all the elements of the group and you cannot get of the subgroup or else you would have another Sylow-p-subgroup, right? So, it must be normal, right?
 
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ehrenfest said:
I don't see the point of q. If G has precisely one proper Sylow p-subgroup, then you can conjugate with all the elements of the group and you cannot get of the subgroup or else you would have another Sylow-p-subgroup, right? So, it must be normal, right?

Yes. (Is it possible that you misread the question - if there is a normal subgroup, the group can't be simple.)
 
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See the EDIT. But am I right about the part about q being unnecessary? You can induce the existence of q by the fact there is a proper Sylow p-subgroup, right?
 
If |G| doesn't have another prime divisor, then we can't say for sure that G isn't simple (e.g. if |G|=p^2).
 
morphism said:
If |G| doesn't have another prime divisor, then we can't say for sure that G isn't simple (e.g. if |G|=p^2).

But it must have another prime divisor if it has a proper p-Sylow subgroup.
 
Ah, you're right. Missed the word proper.
 
ehrenfest said:
See the EDIT. But am I right about the part about q being unnecessary? You can induce the existence of q by the fact there is a proper Sylow p-subgroup, right?

Yep.
 

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