Proving t is a Metric for Real Numbers Pairs

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The discussion revolves around proving that a function defined as t(P,Q)=max(|x1 - x2|,|y1 - y2|) qualifies as a metric for the set of ordered pairs of real numbers. The original poster has successfully demonstrated three properties of a metric but is struggling with the triangle inequality aspect of the proof.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss various methods to prove the triangle inequality, including case-by-case analysis and leveraging properties of the maximum function. Some suggest using specific values for the distances involved, while others propose a more general approach involving inequalities.

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There is an ongoing exploration of different strategies to prove the required property. Some participants have provided insights into the nature of the proof, while others have shared their own rigorous approaches. The discussion reflects a mix of perspectives on how to tackle the problem effectively.

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Participants note the necessity of considering the positivity of the distances involved in the proof. There is also mention of the original poster's constraints regarding the expectations set by their professor for thoroughness in the proof.

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Hello,
I'm working on this problem:
If t(P,Q)=max(|x1 - x2|,|y1 - y2|), show that t is a metric for the set of all ordered pairs of real numbers.
I have proved the first three parts of the definition of a metric
1) t(P,Q) >0
2) t(P,Q) =0 IFF P=Q
3) t(P,Q) = t(Q,P)
all not so hard.
I'm having trouble getting started on the 4th part:
4) t(P,Q) <= t(P,R) + t(R,Q)

My confusion lies in where, exactly, I'm trying to go.
I wrote: Let R=|z1-z2|
It appears that I need to go for something that looks like this:
max(|x1 - x2|,|y1 -y2|)<=max(|x1 - x2|,|z1-z2|)+max(|y1 -y2|,|z1-z2|)
So I did this:
t(P,Q)=max(|x1 - x2|,|y1 -y2|)=max(|x1-z1+z1-x2|,|y1+z2-z2+y2|)
now, I could group x1-z1 and z1-x2, together and do the same thing with the second part, but I don't see how this is going to get me any closer to proving that this is a metric. I know I'm just having a block on something. What I have done doesn't seem right, and I don't know which way to go.
Any nudges in the right direction will be greatly appreciated.
CC
 
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This is presumably a metric on R^2?

Just do it case by case if you must ie suppose that d(x,y) = |x_1 - y_1|, there are only 8 cases to check.
 
happyg1 said:
I'm having trouble getting started on the 4th part:
4) t(P,Q) <= t(P,R) + t(R,Q)

My confusion lies in where, exactly, I'm trying to go.
I wrote: Let R=|z1-z2|
It appears that I need to go for something that looks like this:
max(|x1 - x2|,|y1 -y2|)<=max(|x1 - x2|,|z1-z2|)+max(|y1 -y2|,|z1-z2|)
Correct, that's the triangle inequality. The distance from point P to point Q should be smaller or equal to the sum of distances if you go via some other point R.

So you are given three numbers a=|x_1-x_2|, b=|y_1-y_2|, c=|z_1-z_2|. And you need to show that max(a,b)<=max(a,c)+max(b,c).
It's not difficult if you realize that max(a,c) is larger or equal than a and max(b,c) is larger or equal to b.
 
This way will get you all eight or so cases at once

This way will get you all eight or so cases at once:

Let a,b,c>0 be defined by a=|x_1-x_2|, b=|y_1-y_2|, c=|z_1-z_2|.

Note that:

\mbox{max}(x,y)=\frac{1}{2}\left(x+y+\sqrt{\left(x-y\right) ^2}\right)

(for a reference to this, see here.

and recall that

\mbox{(i) } \left| x - y\right| \leq \left| x\right| + \left| y\right| ,

and note that the obvious statement k\leq \left| k\right| \mbox{ for any }k\in\mathbb{R} with k=\left| x\right| - \left| y\right| yields

\mbox{(ii) } \left| x\right| - \left| y\right| \leq \left| \left| x\right| - \left| y\right| \right|

this implies

\mbox{(iii) } \left| x\right| \leq \left| \left| x\right| - \left| y\right| \right| + \left| y\right|

since a,b,c>0, by (i) we have

\mbox{(1) } \left| a - b\right| \leq a + b,

and by (iii) (twice) we have

\mbox{(2) }a \leq \left| a-c\right| +c,

and

\mbox{(3) }b \leq \left| b-c\right| +c

Adding (2) and (3) gives

\mbox{(4) }a+b \leq 2c + \left| a-c\right| + \left| b-c\right|

Combining (1) and (4) gives

\mbox{(5) } \left| a - b\right| \leq 2c + \left| a-c\right| + \left| b-c\right|

add (a+b) to both sides of (5) to get

\mbox{(6) }a+b+ \left| a - b\right| \leq a+c + \left| a-c\right| + c+b+\left| b-c\right|

then multiply by both sides 0f (6) by 1/2 and replace

\left| a - b\right| ,\left| a-c\right| , \left| b-c\right|

with

\sqrt{\left( a - b\right) ^2} ,\sqrt{\left( a -c\right) ^2} ,\sqrt{\left( c - b\right) ^2} ,

respectively, which, when restated in terms of the equation for max(x,y) given above, gives the required inequality, namely

\mbox{max}(a,b) \leq \mbox{max}(a,c) + \mbox{max}(c,b)

But its kinda, well, long.
 
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Not as long as mine!
That's AWESOME!
I did the 8 cases all super rigorus because my professor likes it like that, even though it feels like monkey work repeating the same thing over and over...I knew about that max formula, but I didn't think to apply it like that. VERY VERY cool.
Thanks
 
Eh? But it's just a 1 line proof!
Since \max(a,c)\geq a and \max(b,c)\geq b the sum is greater than or equal to both a and b and thus greater than or equal to \max(a,b).

EDIT: You have to use the fact that a,b,c are positive. So I guess that makes it 2 lines. Oh well.
 
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Nice one Galileo!

Galileo said:
Eh? But it's just a 1 line proof!
Since \max(a,c)\geq a and \max(b,c)\geq b the sum is greater than or equal to both a and b and thus greater than or equal to \max(a,b).
EDIT: You have to use the fact that a,b,c are positive. So I guess that makes it 2 lines. Oh well.
 

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