Proving the Oddness of sin(mx)cos(nx) using Integration

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The discussion revolves around proving the integral of the product of sine and cosine functions over a symmetric interval, specifically \(\int_{-\pi}^{\pi} \sin(mx)\cos(nx)\,dx\), where \(m\) and \(n\) are integers. The subject area includes integration and properties of odd and even functions.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the use of trigonometric identities to simplify the integral and discuss the properties of odd functions. There are attempts to clarify how the sine function behaves under integration over symmetric limits.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance and raising questions about the nature of odd and even functions. Some participants suggest evaluating the integrals directly, while others inquire about the implications of constants in the sine function's argument.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of treating the case where \(m=n\) separately, indicating that specific conditions may affect the approach. Participants also reflect on the implications of the properties of sine and cosine functions in the context of integration.

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Homework Statement


Prove the following formula
<br /> \int_{-\pi}^{\pi} \sin(mx)\cos(nx)\,dx = 0\\<br /> (m, n = \pm 1, \pm 2, \pm 3, ...)<br />

Homework Equations


<br /> \sin(A)\cos(B) = \frac{1}{2}[\sin(A-B)+\sin(A+B)]<br />

The Attempt at a Solution



<br /> \int_{-\pi}^{\pi} \sin(mx)\cos(nx)\,dx\\<br /> \int_{-\pi}^{\pi} \sin(mx-nx)+\sin(mx+nx)\,dx\\<br /> \int_{-\pi}^{\pi} \sin((m-n)x)+\sin((m+n)x)\,dx<br />
Edit
<br /> \int_{-\pi}^{\pi} \sin((m-n)x)\,dx + \int_{-\pi}^{\pi} \sin((m+n)x)\,dx<br />
the function, sine of any constant times x, is an odd function, therefore when it is integraded from -a to a, its value is 0.
Therefore, we get
<br /> \int_{-\pi}^{\pi} \sin((m-n)x)\,dx + \int_{-\pi}^{\pi} \sin((m+n)x)\,dx = 0 + 0 = 0<br />
Would that be sufficient in the proof?

Thanks guys!
 
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Just do the integrals, taking care to treat the case where m=n separately. You know how to integrate sin kx, right?
 
tainted said:

Homework Statement


Prove the following formula
<br /> \int_{-\pi}^{\pi} \sin(mx)\cos(nx)\,dx = 0\\<br /> (m, n = \pm 1, \pm 2, \pm 3, ...)<br />

Homework Equations


<br /> \sin(A)\cos(B) = \frac{1}{2}[\sin(A-B)+\sin(A+B)]<br />

The Attempt at a Solution



<br /> \int_{-\pi}^{\pi} \sin(mx)\cos(nx)\,dx\\<br /> \int_{-\pi}^{\pi} \sin(mx-nx)+\sin(mx+nx)\,dx\\<br /> \int_{-\pi}^{\pi} \sin((m-n)x)+\sin((m+n)x)\,dx\\<br />

Now I would imagine that there is some identity to either evaluate these or to prove that these are odd.
!

What do you know about odd and even functions and integrals? Are sines and cosines odd or even? Can you draw any conclusions about those integrands?
 
Ok well of course -sin(x) = sin(-x) but does that hold true when there is a constant in front of x?
 
tainted said:
Ok well of course -sin(x) = sin(-x) but does that hold true when there is a constant in front of x?

x can be anything in that identity, can't it? Like, for example, cx.
 
a(-x)= -(ax).
 
Ok thanks guys! I think I got it, could you tell me if my attempted answer to the question appears to be sufficient?
 
Yeah, that's sufficient. But can you see how could have done the whole problem in one step?
 

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