Proving the Relationship Between Chord Length and Curve Type | Homework Question

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The discussion revolves around proving a relationship between chord length and the type of curve represented by a function f. The original poster seeks to demonstrate that if the chord length ||f(s)-f(t)|| depends solely on |s-t|, then the function f must represent a line or a circle, without assuming regularity or unit speed.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss differentiating the chord length and examining the implications of |f'(t)| being constant. There are attempts to express curvature in terms of the chord length as s approaches t. Questions arise regarding the definition and behavior of the function a, which relates to the chord length.

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The discussion is active, with participants offering insights on how to approach the problem. Some guidance has been provided regarding the differentiation of the chord length and the implications of the limit process. However, there remains uncertainty about the generality of the function a and how to prove the constancy of |f'(t)| across all differentiable functions.

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Participants note the potential complexity introduced by the definition of the function a and its behavior for negative values, as well as the challenge of proving results for all differentiable functions rather than specific cases.

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Homework Statement



I want to show that if the chhord length ||f(s)-f(t)|| depends only on |s-t| then the f is part of a line or circlle. f may not be regular or unit speed.

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I'm trying to differentiete it and taking ||f'(t)||, but I really need help, because it's not working for me.
 
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You should be able to show |f'(t)| is a constant. For the rest of the problem I would think about trying to express the curvature of f(t) in terms of things like |f(s)-f(t)| as s->t and hence argue that it is also a constant.
 
How do I show |f'(t)| is a constant? I get to the part: |f'(t)| = lim(dt->0) |a(dt)/dt| where a is the function ||f(s)-f(t)|| =a(|s-t|)... and then I'm stuck
 
Divide both sides of your last expression by |s-t| and let s->t. I would conclude |f'(t)|=a'(0) for an appropriately defined a. Or this "|f'(t)| = lim(dt->0) |a(dt)/dt|". That looks to me like the definition of a'(0).
 
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Yes, but I think the 'appropriately defined a' is the catch. a can be any differentiable function, adn although i can show that |f'(t)| is a constant for certain a, how can I show it for all a?
 
There's no 'catch'. You've defined a(|s-t|)=|f(s)-f(t)|. That defines a(x) for non-negative x. The only 'appropriately defined' case is whether you bother to define a(x) for negative x or keep referring to one sided derivatives. It's really nothing.
 

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