Proving the Validity of a New Metric Space

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The discussion revolves around proving that a new function defined as \(\tilde{d}(x,y) = \frac{d(x,y)}{\sqrt{1+d(x,y)}}\) is a metric. Participants are exploring the necessary inequalities and conditions required for the proof, particularly focusing on the relationship between variables \(a\), \(b\), and \(c\) derived from the triangle inequality in the context of metric spaces.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant has proven positivity and symmetry of \(\tilde{d}\) but is struggling with the inequality \(\frac{a}{\sqrt{1+a}} \leq \frac{b}{\sqrt{1+b}} + \frac{c}{\sqrt{1+c}}\) under the condition \(a \leq b+c\).
  • Another participant suggests proving the inequality under different assumptions about the relative sizes of \(a\), \(b\), and \(c\), specifically considering cases where \(a\) is the largest or not.
  • There is a discussion about the triangle inequality and its implications for the proof, with one participant confirming that \(a \leq b+c\) is indeed the triangle inequality for the original metric.
  • A participant proposes analyzing the function \(f(x) = \frac{x}{\sqrt{1+x}}\) and its derivative to show that it is increasing, suggesting that this could help in proving the desired inequality.
  • Another participant agrees with the approach of using the properties of the function and the analysis of denominators to argue for the validity of the inequality.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the best approach to prove the inequality, with some supporting the analysis of cases based on the relative sizes of \(a\), \(b\), and \(c\), while others focus on the properties of the function \(f(x)\). There is no consensus on a single method or conclusion at this point.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes various assumptions about the relationships between \(a\), \(b\), and \(c\) that may affect the validity of the proposed proofs. The participants have not resolved the mathematical steps necessary to establish the inequality definitively.

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Suppose that (X,d) is a metric

Show [itex]\tilde{d}[/itex](x,y) = [itex]\frac{d(x,y)}{\sqrt{1+d(x,y)}}[/itex] is also a metric

I've proven the positivity and symmetry of it.

Left to prove something like this

Given a[itex]\leq[/itex]b+c
Show [itex]\frac{a}{\sqrt{1+a}}[/itex][itex]\leq[/itex][itex]\frac{b}{\sqrt{1+b}}[/itex]+[itex]\frac{c}{\sqrt{1+c}}[/itex]

I try to prove this
a[itex]\sqrt{1+b}[/itex][itex]\sqrt{1+c}[/itex]=b[itex]\sqrt{1+a}[/itex][itex]\sqrt{1+c}[/itex]+c[itex]\sqrt{1+a}[/itex][itex]\sqrt{1+b}[/itex]
but I'm just stuck!

cz previously I've proven this [itex]\frac{a}{1+a}[/itex][itex]\leq[/itex][itex]\frac{b}{1+b}[/itex]+[itex]\frac{c}{1+c}[/itex] before...

I guess I can't use the same method??
 
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Lily@pie said:
Given a[itex]\leq[/itex]b+c
Show [itex]\frac{a}{\sqrt{1+a}}[/itex][itex]\leq[/itex][itex]\frac{b}{\sqrt{1+b}}[/itex]+[itex]\frac{c}{\sqrt{1+c}}[/itex]
Can you prove this assuming a is bigger than both b and c? Can you prove it assuming a is not the biggest?
 
What do you mean? I know a≤b+c...

So I assume a is bigger than both a and c?
 
Lily@pie said:
What do you mean?
I mean that if you can prove an assertion under some condition, and then under the complementary condition, then you are done. And I have also told you what condition works well in your case.
 
This is natural to assume given the triangle inequality for the original metric.
 
Let:
a=d(x,y)
b=d(x,z)
c=d(z,y)

a[itex]\leq[/itex]b+c
This is the triangle inequality for the original metric right?

Show [itex]\frac{a}{\sqrt{1+a}}[/itex][itex]\leq[/itex][itex]\frac{b}{\sqrt{1+b}}[/itex]+[itex]\frac{c}{\sqrt{1+c}}[/itex] -- (*)

Does this means that I try to prove (*) by two cases:
1. assuming a>b and a>c
2. assuming a<b and a<c?
 
I'm not sure whether this way of proving it is okay:

I take a look at the function

f(x)=[itex]\frac{x}{\sqrt{1+x}}[/itex]

f'(x)=[itex]\frac{2+x}{2(1+x)^{\frac{3}{2}}}[/itex]
f'(x)>0 if and only if x≥-1.

Since I know that 0≤a≤b+c, f(x) is an increasing function in the interval [0,b+c]. Therefore, by choosing a=b+c, f(a)=[itex]\frac{a}{\sqrt{1+a}}[/itex]=[itex]\frac{b+c}{\sqrt{1+b+c}}[/itex] is the maximum possible value.

Hence it is enough to show that [itex]\frac{b+c}{\sqrt{1+b+c}}[/itex][itex]\leq[/itex][itex]\frac{b}{\sqrt{1+b}}[/itex]+[itex]\frac{c}{\sqrt{1+c}}[/itex]

Since 1+b+c≥1+b and 1+b+c≥1+c,
[itex]\frac{b+c}{\sqrt{1+b+c}}[/itex]=[itex]\frac{b}{\sqrt{1+b+c}}[/itex]+[itex]\frac{c}{\sqrt{1+b+c}}[/itex][itex]\leq[/itex][itex]\frac{b}{\sqrt{1+b}}[/itex]+[itex]\frac{c}{\sqrt{1+c}}[/itex]

Therefore,
[itex]\frac{a}{\sqrt{1+a}}[/itex][itex]\leq[/itex][itex]\frac{b}{\sqrt{1+b}}[/itex]+[itex]\frac{c}{\sqrt{1+c}}[/itex]

It seems a bit dodgy :bugeye:
 
Your solution is good. You use both the idea about f'>0 and the analysis of the denomintarors in one argument.
 
So is this method valid?
 

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