Pseudoscalar Matrix Elements and Parity Transformation Behavior

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of polarization vectors of pseudoscalar and pseudovector particles under parity transformations, specifically focusing on the effective matrix element linking a D* meson and a pion. The scope includes theoretical considerations and implications from Heavy Quark Effective Theory.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the behavior of the polarization vector of a pseudoscalar particle under parity transformation, specifically in the context of a matrix element involving a D* and a pion.
  • Another participant asserts that pseudoscalar particles do not have polarization vectors, prompting a clarification that the discussion pertains to the D*, which is a pseudovector.
  • A participant emphasizes that the effective matrix element must take a specific form due to theoretical principles, referencing Heavy Quark Effective Theory.
  • Another participant suggests that an alternative Lagrangian could exist that does not involve certain terms, prompting a request for clarification on the reference provided.
  • One participant elaborates on the parity properties of the D* and pion, discussing the implications for the matrix element and the necessity of including a negative parity component to maintain invariance.
  • Another participant provides a detailed explanation of how to construct a parity-invariant expression using the Levi-Civita tensor and discusses the relevance of Heavy Meson Chiral Perturbation Theory.

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Participants express differing views on the existence and form of the effective matrix element and the appropriate Lagrangian. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific details of the Lagrangian and the implications for the matrix element.

Contextual Notes

There are references to specific theoretical frameworks and articles, but the discussion does not resolve the assumptions or dependencies on definitions related to the matrix elements and parity transformations.

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Hi all. I have a question. What is the behaviour of the polarization vector of a pseudoscalar particle under a parity transformation??
Let me explain my problem. I know for sure that the effective matrix element which links a [itex]D^*[/itex] and a [itex]\pi[/itex] can be written as:

$$
\langle \pi(p)D^*(q,\lambda) | D^*(k,\eta)\rangle=\frac{g}{M_{D^*}}\epsilon_{\alpha\beta\gamma\delta} \lambda^\alpha \eta^\beta p^\gamma q^\delta,
$$
where $g$ is an effective coupling.

What I am trying to prove is that such a matrix element is (as it must be) a scalar. Now if, for example, we put ourselves in the rest frame of the [itex]\pi[/itex] we have just [itex](\vec{\lambda}\times\vec{\eta})\cdot \vec{q}[/itex]. Is that a scalar function?

Thank you very much
 
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Einj said:
What is the behaviour of the polarization vector of a pseudoscalar particle under a parity transformation??
Pseudoscalar particles don't have polarization vectors, Einj.
 
I am sorry that's clearly a typo. I am talking about the [itex]D^*[/itex], a pseudovector. Sorry again.
 
Einj said:
I know for sure that the effective matrix element which links a [itex]D^*[/itex] and a [itex]\pi[/itex] can be written as:

$$
\langle \pi(p)D^*(q,\lambda) | D^*(k,\eta)\rangle=\frac{g}{M_{D^*}}\epsilon_{\alpha\beta\gamma\delta} \lambda^\alpha \eta^\beta p^\gamma q^\delta,
$$
where $g$ is an effective coupling.
why it should strictly have this form.
 
It is a consequence of Heavy Quark Effective Theory. You can take a look, for example, at arXiv:hep-ph/9605342 [hep-ph]. In this article there should be such a result.
 
I am sorry but I wasn't able to find such a lagrangian in the reference, where is it?. However, let me just underline that we are talking of a matrix element between a [itex]\pi[/itex] and two [itex]D^*[/itex], not a [itex]D[/itex] and a [itex]D^*[/itex]. Does your point still hold also for such matrix element??
 
##D^* ## is a vector with parity ##P = -1 ##
##\pi ## is a pseudoscalar ##P = -1##

So you have ##(-1)^3 = -1## for your matrix in and out states.

You have two vectors (three momentum, but not independent) and two pseudo-vectors(polarizations) ##P = +1 ## that you can decompose this matrix element into.

It should be proportional to the two polarizations for sure, and have no free indices.

##\eta_1^{\alpha} \eta_2^{* \beta}##

now you could just multiply this by the metric to get an invariant but this is ## P = +1 ##. You need a negative parity thing somewhere. If you introduce a momentum you'll have a free index if the polarizations are contracted. So you have a ## P = -1 ## thing but its not invariant.

##\eta_1^{\alpha} \eta_2^{* \beta} p_1^{\delta}##

So you use another momenta (assuming some metric multiplications here, any permutation)

##\eta_1^{\alpha} \eta_2^{* \beta} p_1^{\delta} p_2^{\sigma} ##

BUT now its positive parity again. Luckily we have a 4-index negative parity pseudo-tensor, the antisymmetric Levi-Civita tensor giving us an object:

##\epsilon_{\alpha \beta \delta \sigma} \eta_1^{\alpha} \eta_2^{* \beta} p_1^{\delta} p_2^{\sigma} ##

That has both the parity and lorentz-invariant properties of the amplitude. Throw in a constant out front for good measure.

For the Lagrangian look into Heavy Meson Chiral Perturbation Theory. the ##\frac{1}{M}## is from the expansion in the heavy quark mass.

In heavy meson chiral pt the vector and pseudoscalar mesons (D,DSTAR) are grouped into a spin-doublet "H" due to transformation properties.

You'll find the lagrangian as Eq 40 in http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-ph/9605342

which is a great overview of HMxPT
 
Thank you very much. You have been very clear! :biggrin:
 

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