Pulling a negative out of a square root

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The discussion clarifies the invalidity of the equation ##\sqrt{a}\sqrt{b} = \sqrt{ab}## when both ##a## and ##b## are negative. Specifically, it highlights that while ##\sqrt{-5}## can be simplified to ##i\sqrt{5}##, the manipulation does not hold for the product of two negative square roots. The complex square root function's range is defined, allowing for the correct application of the square root in complex numbers, provided that the sum of the arguments of the numbers involved is less than ##\pi##. This is crucial for understanding complex number operations.

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The following is invalid, since the operation is not defined when ##a, b < 0##: ##\sqrt{-1}\sqrt{-1} = \sqrt{(-1)(-1)} = \sqrt{(-1)^2} = \sqrt{1} = 1##. This is not correct, because ##ii = -1##. This shows that ##\sqrt{a}\sqrt{b} = \sqrt{ab}## is invalid when ##a, b< 0##.

However, say we have ##\sqrt{-5}##. In order to simplify this, we do the following: ##\sqrt{-5} = \sqrt{(-1)(5)} = \sqrt{-1}\sqrt{5} = i\sqrt{5}##. Why is this a valid manipulation given the previous statement that ##\sqrt{a}\sqrt{b} = \sqrt{ab}## is invalid when ##a, b< 0##?
 
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The following is invalid, since the operation is not defined when ##a, b < 0##: ##\sqrt{-1}\sqrt{-1} = \sqrt{(-1)(-1)} = \sqrt{(-1)^2} = \sqrt{1} = 1##. This is not correct, because ##ii = -1##. This shows that ##\sqrt{a}\sqrt{b} = \sqrt{ab}## is invalid when ##a, b< 0##.

However, say we have ##\sqrt{-5}##. In order to simplify this, we do the following: ##\sqrt{-5} = \sqrt{(-1)(5)} = \sqrt{-1}\sqrt{5} = i\sqrt{5}##. Why is this a valid manipulation given the previous statement that ##\sqrt{a}\sqrt{b} = \sqrt{ab}## is invalid when ##a, b< 0##?
You are applying a criterion where a and b are both less than zero to a situation where only one of them is less than zero. I don't see why you would expect it to apply.
 
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In my math book (1971 :smile:) the range of the complex square root function is ##-{1\over 2} \pi \lt \arg {\bf z} \le {1\over 2} \pi ##.

With the range of ##\phi = \arg {\bf z} ## : ##- \pi \lt \phi \le \pi ##, and using euler ## \ {\bf z} \equiv |{\bf z}| e^{i\phi} ## we can now define $$ \ \sqrt {\bf z} \equiv\; \sqrt{|{\bf z}|} \; e^{i {\phi\over 2} } $$
With this definition of the complex square root you can see that ##\sqrt {\bf \alpha\beta} = \sqrt {\bf \alpha} \sqrt {\bf \beta} ## only holds if ## \ |\arg {\bf \alpha} + \arg {\bf \beta} | < \pi ##

Check out the euler formula, de moivre theorem.
 
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