Pushing a block up a hill (kinematics/dynamics)

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The discussion focuses on a physics problem involving a box sliding up and down a ramp inclined at 40 degrees. The box accelerates up the ramp with an incorrect initial acceleration calculation of -6.41 m/s², leading to an erroneous distance of 12.83 m. The correct acceleration down the ramp is calculated as 6.18 m/s², and the expected total time for the box to return to its starting point is 2.4 seconds. The key takeaway is the importance of accurately applying the equations of motion and ensuring calculator settings are correct.

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Homework Statement



A small box is at the bottom of a ramp tilted at an angle of 40 degrees above horizontal. The box is given a push and it then slides up the ramp 2.0 seconds before sliding back down. The coefficient of sliding friction is 0.15. Find the time for it to slide back to the point it was released.

Homework Equations



Fnet = ma

The Attempt at a Solution



a = - gsin[tex]\theta[/tex] - ugcos[tex]\theta[/tex]
a = - 6.41 m/s2

Up:

v2 = 0
t = 2s
a = - 6.41 m/s2

d = -(-1/2at2)
d = 12.83 m

Down:

v1 = 0
a = gsin[tex]\theta[/tex] - ugcos[tex]\theta[/tex] = 6.18 m/s2
d = 12.83 m

t = sqrt(d/(1/2a)) = 2.04 s

The answer is supposed to be 2.4 s.

What'd I do wrong?
 
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Recheck your calculation for the acceleration down. It is awfully close to the acceleration up.

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Actually, your value for acceleration up the incline is incorrect which gives you an incorrect value for the distance traveled. Redo your calculation and be sure you set your calculator to "degrees".
 
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kuruman said:
Recheck your calculation for the acceleration down. It is awfully close to the acceleration up.

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Actually, your value for acceleration up the incline is incorrect which gives you an incorrect value for the distance traveled. Redo your calculation and be sure you set your calculator to "degrees".

I see what I did wrong, on the paper I was doing the problem on, I wrote a = -gsin(theta) - ucos(theta), and missed the g on the second term, so I kept plugging that into my calculator. For some reason I typed it up correctly here :s

Thanks!
 

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