Putnam problem with inequalities

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The discussion revolves around a problem from the Putnam competition involving inequalities. The original poster seeks assistance specifically with proving a part of the problem related to bounding a quantity by 1.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss various approaches to proving the inequality, including the selection of specific vectors and the application of known inequalities like Cauchy-Schwartz. There is uncertainty about which vectors to choose to achieve the desired bounds.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, sharing insights and suggestions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the selection of vectors, and there is acknowledgment of the need to address special cases in the reasoning.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of specific constraints related to the handling of the null vector and the validity of certain steps in the proof, highlighting the complexity of the problem.

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Homework Statement


can someone help me with only if part of Problem 2?

http://www.math.cornell.edu/~putnam/ineqs.pdf

I can prove that quantity is less than or equal to n, but I cannot get it leq to 1?


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Assume the first expression is true for all [itex]x_1, x_2, \cdots, x_n[/itex]. This means you can hand-pick a particular [itex]x_1, x_2, \cdots, x_n[/itex] that makes the desired relation fall out.
 
Yes. That's how I got that it was less than n. I just picked basis vectors. But I don't know which special vectors pick to get it less than 1.
 
You want to leave expressions involving {ri} on both sides of the inequality.
 
So, should I let x equal r times a scalar factor or something? I need to use the Cauchy-Schwartz inequality, somehow, don't I?
 
You don't need Cauchy-Schwartz. You are on the right track. Set each xi to ri.
 
So then we have that norm(r) => norm(r)^2 i.e. that 1 => norm(r). I cannot believe how long I spent on that :(
 
Almost. You get norm(r)^2 >= norm(r)^4, and thus 1 >= norm(r)^2.

To be completely rigorous you also have to handle the special case where the division in the final step is not valid. This case is trivial, so to speak.
 
When r is a null vector its length is certainly less than or equal to 1.
 
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Its trivial to deal with the zero vector, but you deal with it you must as step from norm(r)^2 >= norm(4)^r to 1>= norm(r)^2 is not valid for r=0.
 
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I agree. Thanks.
 

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